paulus 26 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 It appears that Ukraine does not have the full support of all the NATO allies. Viktor Orban the president of Hungary did not clap when Zelensky appeared at the latest NATO summit a fortnight ago, It would appear that Hungary have the same issues with Ukraine and the Ukrainian Leadership that Russia has, That being the violation of the rights of its citizens living on the border regions between themselves and Ukraine, The exact same reasons Putin gave for his special military operation, and his desire to take the Donbass region where Russians live on the border. I seem to remember another NATO allies quoting the same problems with its citizens living on the Ukrainian boarder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 A bit of background https://washington.mfa.gov.hu/eng/news/why-is-hungary-blocking-ukraines-nato-accession#:~:text=Since 2018%2C Hungary has been,rights of its ethnic minorities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 I Feckin knew it .Glad I never chipped in now . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,786 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 40 minutes ago, paulus said: It appears that Ukraine does not have the full support of all the NATO allies. Viktor Orban the president of Hungary did not clap when Zelensky appeared at the latest NATO summit a fortnight ago, It would appear that Hungary have the same issues with Ukraine and the Ukrainian Leadership that Russia has, That being the violation of the rights of its citizens living on the border regions between themselves and Ukraine, The exact same reasons Putin gave for his special military operation, and his desire to take the Donbass region where Russians live on the border. I seem to remember another NATO allies quoting the same problems with its citizens living on the Ukrainian boarder. It’s been a farce since 2014 when they removed the leader and replaced him with the billionaire actor zalenski who has been supporting the killing of Russian speaking Ukrainians in the border regions since, its all part of the eu and NATO’s expansion policy’s, every advocate of a European Union from napoleon , hitler through to the modern bunch have had there end goal set on Russia which is why putin wants a buffer zone along his border, he,s been right from the start in my eyes 4 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Nothing new here, Hungary has hardly been a supporter of Ukraine for years!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Deker said: Nothing new here, Hungary has hardly been a supporter of Ukraine for years!!! Its the reason why that appears to be the issue, As It would appear to be the exact same reasons that Putin invaded over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, paulus said: Its the reason why that appears to be the issue, As It would appear to be the exact same reasons that Putin invaded over. Where are you going with this??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chesney 5,457 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Putin had no business taken crimea he still done it he done same in georgia and nato left him and then he decides he wants to take a whole country good job he failled miserably in that otherwise he try take the baltic states. At least now he bogged down in eastern ukraine the great russian bear not the force the westen governments led us to believe. Ukraine biggest mistake was given up there nukes 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Deker said: Where are you going with this??? Hopefully towards the truth rather than the biased version portrayed in our media. No axe to grind with either side just to understand the reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, chesney said: Putin had no business taken crimea he still done it he done same in georgia and nato left him and then he decides he wants to take a whole country good job he failled miserably in that otherwise he try take the baltic states. At least now he bogged down in eastern ukraine the great russian bear not the force the westen governments led us to believe. Ukraine biggest mistake was given up there nukes His Business in Crimea was, its the home of the Black Sea Fleet and the only seaport Russia has that does not Freeze over in the winter. Georgia was again similar to Ukraine and Hungary/Russia. The self-proclaimed republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia were recognised by Russia but not Georgia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, paulus said: Hopefully towards the truth rather than the biased version portrayed in our media. No axe to grind with either side just to understand the reasons. What truth?? There has been Ukraine/Russian problems in the Donbass area for a long time, its not new and as far as I'm aware it wasn't a secret!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Deker said: What truth?? There has been Ukraine/Russian problems in the Donbass area for a long time, its not new and as far as I'm aware it wasn't a secret!! Its out there Lol, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLATTOP 4,502 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, paulus said: Its out there Lol, I’m sure Scotty will be along in a minute to explain every thing 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,105 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Greyman said: It’s been a farce since 2014 when they removed the leader and replaced him with the billionaire actor zalenski who has been supporting the killing of Russian speaking Ukrainians in the border regions since, its all part of the eu and NATO’s expansion policy’s, every advocate of a European Union from napoleon , hitler through to the modern bunch have had there end goal set on Russia which is why putin wants a buffer zone along his border, he,s been right from the start in my eyes Been following closely have we ?? ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 2,196 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, FLATTOP said: I’m sure Scotty will be along in a minute to explain every thing He he 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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