Bakerboy 4,672 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Good statement Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,628 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, tank34 said: This is from the hunts Facebook group An incident occurred on Saturday while The Cottesmore Hunt were trail hunting around the Whissendine area. The huntsman needed to jump a gate, but found it obstructed by 2 members of the Sabotuers Association. On video, he can clearly be heard asking them to allow him access to jump the obstacle, but they remained on the gate. An experienced horseman, on a very capable horse, Sam assessed the situation, verbally warned of his intentions to jump the gate and requested they keep clear, he viewed his line over the gate and jumped. As his horse took off, it is clear to see that the previously stationary person moved, deliberately putting themselves in the path of the jumping horse, potentially causing injury to themselves, the horse and Sam. A horse will not intentionally tread on an other being, and Sam’s horse, an experienced and very clever animal did his best to avoid the person that had put themselves in his path as he took off for the fence, however a moving object is hard to avoid and unfortunately his feet made contact. The extreme reaction of the Saboteurs present did no more than amplify their desperation to discredit The Cottesmore Hunt. The Saboteurs called 999 and summonsed an ambulance for a person who walked 3 fields to get to the road, they had 2 of their own vehicles present and could very easily have saved the over stretched ambulance service a call out. They also had 3 police cars, again wasting the time of an overstretched service to create a social media worthy story. Their desperation as our trail hunting season draws to a close is to cause trouble and create stories purely because they know we are trail hunting legally and have no just reason to be abusing and terrorising the hunt staff and followers. In addition, they have attacked on social media, Stapleford Park Hotel, who had no involvement with the meet or our days trail hunting, proving that the Saboteurs Association intend to cause distress to countryside businesses regardless of their lack of involvement with the Cottesmore. This incident could potentially have caused injury or death to Sam and his horse and we are investigating potential criminal charges against the hunt saboteur. That's a good way to deal with it publicly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gypsydog94 4,561 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Obviously was hoping the horse would refuse and send him over the head. That plan backfired teach them a lesson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Sam's a good lad. That's his first huntsman's job. Not really looked into the details of this but before things descend into a character assassination I just wanted to speak for his. The Cottesmore are absolutely hounded by the sabs. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Born Hunter said: Sam's a good lad. That's his first huntsman's job. Not really looked into the details of this but before things descend into a character assassination I just wanted to speak for his. The Cottesmore are absolutely hounded by the sabs. That's what they did with the Atherstone, It would appear to be there new tactic. Concentrate on hounding one hunt at a time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,629 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, paulus said: That's what they did with the Atherstone, It would appear to be there new tactic. Concentrate on hounding one hunt at a time. If that hunt trail hunts 100% , films everything and gets police on side they will ride through it. The atherstone destroyed themselves, just like many others seem intent on doing. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Just now, DIDO.1 said: If that hunt trail hunts 100% , films everything and gets police on side they will ride through it. The atherstone destroyed themselves, just like many others seem intent on doing. That is also very true but the antis were always there in numbers with there media machine running at full tilt, They are fully aware how to manipulate and exploit any situation, No matter how innocent it may have appeared to be, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,629 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, paulus said: That is also very true but the antis were always there in numbers with there media machine running at full tilt, They are fully aware how to manipulate and exploit any situation, No matter how innocent it may have appeared to be, Definitely. Unfortunately.... fieldsports enthusiasts, like white British (English especially) seem unable to learn basic lessons in survival, even when their very existence depends on it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) Sabs are annoying and sometimes put themselves in danger during their activities. I have every sympathy with the guy on the horse. However you cannot give an ultimatum and say "move or I will mow you down". If you were a car driver in the same circumstances you would be in big trouble if you deliberately aimed your car at an annoying, defiant pedestrian. Imo his actions were over the top, even though he was sorely provoked. Edited February 13, 2023 by jukel123 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: Sabs are annoying and sometimes put themselves in danger during their activities. I have every sympathy with the guy on the horse. However you cannot give an ultimatum and say "move or I will mow you down". If you were a car driver in the same circumstances you would be in big trouble if you deliberately aimed your car at an annoying, defiant pedestrian. Imo his actions were over the top, even though he was sorely provoked. Did the sab not jump into his path? If the sabs hadn’t of moved no one would’ve been hurt. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,151 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: Sabs are annoying and sometimes put themselves in danger during their activities. I have every sympathy with the guy on the horse. However you cannot give an ultimatum and say "move or I will mow you down". If you were a car driver in the same circumstances you would be in big trouble if you deliberately aimed your car at an annoying, defiant pedestrian. Imo his actions were over the top, even though he was sorely provoked. The sabs were tresspassing juke,plus he was warned to move,plus he moved in the way of his horse,f**k him,its a bit different in a car on public land,the sabs were worrying the horses,conspiring to hurt the animals like its shown on video,luckily the horse is ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) My phone is refusing to play the clip again. However I accept your interpretation of events. Even so, the huntsman acted recklessly in the spur of that moment. I think he's on a sticky wicket if it reaches court. The sabs will make a meal of it for sure. Victimhood runs in their veins. Edited February 13, 2023 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 2,754 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Stevenstone Hunt kill fox 11.2.23 | Stevenstone Hunt kill fox 11.2.23... FB.WATCH 19K views, 68 likes, 4 loves, 271 comments, 197 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Devon County Hunt... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,727 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 54 minutes ago, dodger said: Stevenstone Hunt kill fox 11.2.23 | Stevenstone Hunt kill fox 11.2.23... FB.WATCH 19K views, 68 likes, 4 loves, 271 comments, 197 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Devon County Hunt... They should start hunting antis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gypsydog94 4,561 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, dodger said: Stevenstone Hunt kill fox 11.2.23 | Stevenstone Hunt kill fox 11.2.23... FB.WATCH 19K views, 68 likes, 4 loves, 271 comments, 197 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Devon County Hunt... How come they don’t show the moments before the kill more then likely turned it back to hounds with there screaming and shouting. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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