Sausagedog 7,381 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 Some of you guys I've heard refer to sight mark wraiths. I see the wraith 4k ultra around £500. Are they any good? I'm guessing a picitinny rail would be needed for an 11mm grooved receiver?? Quote Link to post
Fellman Mark 607 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 I’ve recently bought the hik alpex been using it on my 17hmr very good unit picture is spot on £800 for the scope best I’ve used or seen 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 Have a look at the new pard 1 Quote Link to post
ianm 2,594 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Sausagedog said: Some of you guys I've heard refer to sight mark wraiths. I see the wraith 4k ultra around £500. Are they any good? I'm guessing a picitinny rail would be needed for an 11mm grooved receiver?? I have looked through a wraith and if i was you i would wait until the budget can stretch to one of the new pards, alpex or c50s. A friend of mine that owns a rfd has just put one of the new pards with lrf on a 204. I am going to help him zero it today weather permitting. He is clueless with any form of technology , so i will at least have a good idea of its capabilities but in daylight. 2 Quote Link to post
ianm 2,594 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 Right I zeroed this scope in one shot and took another to check it. It was absolutely spot on. The picture is really very good and we finished up shooting at the hardox fox targets up to 300yds with absolutely no drama whatsoever. Once you have had a flick through the manual it is a very user friendly scope. I was quite impressed with it actually. The laser range finder was spot on as well. This is all in daylight though and I have no idea what it will be like at night. If it is 2/3rds as good in the dark as it is in daylight it will be a usable scope at not too much money. 2 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted January 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, ianm said: Right I zeroed this scope in one shot and took another to check it. It was absolutely spot on. The picture is really very good and we finished up shooting at the hardox fox targets up to 300yds with absolutely no drama whatsoever. Once you have had a flick through the manual it is a very user friendly scope. I was quite impressed with it actually. The laser range finder was spot on as well. This is all in daylight though and I have no idea what it will be like at night. If it is 2/3rds as good in the dark as it is in daylight it will be a usable scope at not too much money. Which one is it Ian? 1 Quote Link to post
bumpy22 414 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 Mates just got a new pard. Only had it 2 weeks but accounted for a few foxes. Picture seems better than my c50 but not drone lol. The one thing I would say field of view seems quite narrow like the old pards. If it was me I would get a secondhand 008. Seen them going for 250 that's a lot of kit for money 2 Quote Link to post
ianm 2,594 Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Sausagedog said: Which one is it Ian? It is the DS 35 70RF. 1 hour ago, bumpy22 said: Mates just got a new pard. Only had it 2 weeks but accounted for a few foxes. Picture seems better than my c50 but not drone lol. The one thing I would say field of view seems quite narrow like the old pards. If it was me I would get a secondhand 008. Seen them going for 250 that's a lot of kit for money Yes there is always that option too. Although quite a few had mount problems and the quality of the picture is nowhere near the new ones. Quote Link to post
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Sausagedog said: Which one is it Ian? Pard DS35 70 LRF Night Vision Scope - Blackwood Outdoors WWW.BLACKWOODOUTDOORS.CO.UK The Pard DS35 70RF night vision scope features a new tube design to assist mounting, with... Think Ian means this one mate 1 Quote Link to post
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, Sausagedog said: Some of you guys I've heard refer to sight mark wraiths. I see the wraith 4k ultra around £500. Are they any good? I'm guessing a picitinny rail would be needed for an 11mm grooved receiver?? If its purely for the NV mate then worth bearing in mind that 4k is only viable during daylight, at night it will revert back to HD. I know @shovel leaner Edited January 16, 2023 by BenBhoy 2 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, BenBhoy said: If its purely for the NV mate then worth bearing in mind that 4k is only viable during daylight, at night it will revert back to HD. I know @shovel leaner Yes but it's still useable on a HMR yes? Quote Link to post
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) This forum is playing up on my phone! I know SL uses the ultra & rates it. Although c50s, alpex & ds35 are are all the current best, SD says on tight budget, I feel you there mate! Plenty of pard008s coming up now. And the wraith HD which loads on here use (even stav!) are still good with decent ir torch. Edited January 16, 2023 by BenBhoy 2 Quote Link to post
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sausagedog said: Yes but it's still useable on a HMR yes? Yeah 100%. You'll need a pic rail to mount. Edited January 16, 2023 by BenBhoy 1 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted January 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, BenBhoy said: Yeah 100%. You'll need a pic rail to mount. They aren't cheap either for a mass produced thing! Quote Link to post
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted January 16, 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Sausagedog said: They aren't cheap either for a mass produced thing! Nothing cheap these days mate, apart from talk. 1 Quote Link to post
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