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3 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

I cant be f****d mate.....the man was a better dogman than you or i could ever dream of being....he took his opportunity with courage and determination and in doing so created one of the best lines of competition bulldogs Britain and Europe has ever seen...........but you know best ?

he may well a been gnash we’re did i say otherwise ? someone mentioned man biters i said the yanks ain’t going to send the best out most probably why there man biters 

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Im not entirely sure if this will be allowed on here and no problems at all if its binned my apologies i just thought it would be nice to share this old story within the working/sporting dog world abo

Because that was the blood he liked and the dog showed himself as an outstandingly game example of that blood. I'd have thought folk into working/sporting dogs would understand.....obviously not

Good dogs were where you found them mate as the old saying go's. Just to be clear that story wasnt mine its an article that was in the old gamedog mags years ago i just thought it would be nice t

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7 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

he may well a been gnash we’re did i say otherwise ? someone mentioned man biters i said the yanks ain’t going to send the best out most probably why there man biters 

It wouldnt make a blind bit of difference nobody in their right mind would have got rid of a high calibre dog because it was manny.......if the subject interests you why not just go away and learn about it instead of just guessing !

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Just now, gnasher16 said:

It wouldnt make a blind bit of difference nobody in their right mind would have got rid of a high calibre dog because it was manny.......if the subject interests you why not just go away and learn about it instead of just guessing !

it wouldn’t if lads know what’s what but the yanks robbed lied and cheated each other  left right and center so when a brit or european sent for a dog it will a been send them one a them pups they will have some fun with them manbiting fuckers 

it’s not really my cup a tea gnash keeping dogs to get fit on a said date 3-5 times in there life time if your very lucky isn’t for me 

but you have to admire the dogs mate 

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19 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

An everyday chap not in the best of shape crossing the channel in little more than a rowing boat then swimming the last half mile harnessed to a 50 lb dog of questionable temperament might not be impressive to you but it is to me....courage,desire,perseverance call it what you will but its more than most are willing to do to own a good dog.

As for coin most of the money off the progeny of that dog came from matching them....the kennels never consisted of any more than 5 or 6 people who kept no more than 2 or 3 dogs each....very few of those early matings went out to the public and of the 3 matings with Tug 14 of the 17 pups went on to be matched with a record of 18 wins and 9 losses....the kennels were known throughout the Uk and Europe for big stakes matches yes....but to compare that to the money made through peddling pups like many of the other imports of the time is simply wrong as very few dogs went into pet homes comparatively,partly due to the fact that as already touched on they had a reputation for being manny. 

Don't disagree with you there. I wouldn't compare them to those peddling pup's today in anyway. The average man back in the 80's was interested only in putting a roof over his head and food in himself, let alone owning a dog to walk it about in his free time. Changed days for sure.

Wasn't it alligator blood that were prone to be man biters, that's where nelis was down from?

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