New football thread

[Astanley 11,576]

39 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Keepdiggin, imo, these street/prison legends are only fit to hold the coats of pro boxers or MMA fighters. A few have appeared in the pro ring, Sykes and Bronson for example, but were soundly beaten. Let's face it those two had/ have big mental health problems.

McLean and Shaw could never have cut it if they fought genuine boxers of equal weight. From what I've seen on YouTube, they were very poor in the ring. The same is true of gypsy gobshites on YouTube. I genuinely think a lot of those guys must be retarded.

I don't buy " the cobbles" is different to the ring. Boxers can fight as well as box, and MMA fighters would be very at home on "the cobbles."

So for me, these guys are frauds. They are only mimicking the real warriors. They talk the talk but are not capable of walking the walk.

 

I think it's like most other things ,you can't generalise mate ,I have known so so boxers who were fearsome on the cobbles and I have know decent quality boxers who just couldn't hack the cobbles ,no hard and fast rules .

[jukel123 8,480]

13 minutes ago, Dutch said:

I don’t know how you make a comparison between pro fighters and bare knuckle ones. 

Regarding bare knuckle fighters, most of them couldn’t get a licence so we’re forced down this route to earn a pound note

Lenny McLean just struck me as a proper fearsome and explosive man. 

 

 

 

 

MMA  isn't bare knuckle is it?  I didn't mention bare knuckle.

I didn't mean to upset you Greb/Dutch. I know a lot of young men are fascinated by Lennie M .

Edited January 23, 2023 by jukel123

[Dutch 267]

7 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

Was that via elland rd then  greb 

East Ham mate. 

[jukel123 8,480]

Back to football. I don't doubt Hackney Marshes has bred many, many brilliant players. But, genuine question. Has a boys club ever produced more pro players than Wallsend Boys Club in the North East?

They have a prolific prodution line. I bet every club in the country send scouts there. Off the top of my head.... Shearer, Waddle, Bruce, Beardsley Supermac( Newcastles number 9 for many years). The list goes on.

Scotland used to produce top players, but they dried up for some reason. The North East continues to a be a hotbed of talent.

[Dutch 267]

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

MMA  isn't bare knuckle is it?  I didn't mention bare knuckle.

I didn't mean to upset you Greb/Dutch. I know a lot of young men are fascinated by Lennie M .

Bloody hell all I said was I don’t know how you can make a comparison as you’re not comparing apples for apples - rules, training, discipline, one man’s strengths etc. The logic seems flawed in my simple mind. 

It’s ok to disagree and have a difference in opinion mate x

 

[jukel123 8,480]

Just now, Dutch said:

Bloody hell all I said was I don’t know how you can make a comparison as you’re not comparing apples for apples - rules, training, discipline, one man’s strengths etc. The logic seems flawed in my simple mind. 

It’s ok to disagree and have a difference in opinion mate x

 

Please don't send me a x. Makes me uncomfortable.  I'm old school.

[Blackmag 6,103]

18 minutes ago, Dutch said:

East Ham mate. 

Ok

[gnasher16 30,280]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Keepdiggin, imo, these street/prison legends are only fit to hold the coats of pro boxers or MMA fighters. A few have appeared in the pro ring, Sykes and Bronson for example, but were soundly beaten. Let's face it those two had/ have big mental health problems.

McLean and Shaw could never have cut it if they fought genuine boxers of equal weight. From what I've seen on YouTube, they were very poor in the ring. The same is true of gypsy gobshites on YouTube. I genuinely think a lot of those guys must be retarded.

I don't buy " the cobbles" is different to the ring. Boxers can fight as well as box, and MMA fighters would be very at home on "the cobbles."

So for me, these guys are frauds. They are only mimicking the real warriors. They talk the talk but are not capable of walking the walk.

 

Its just different times.....in his day very few people could cope with Lennie in a stand up but in todays times against a fit and dedicated mma fighter of equal size no of course not......back then nobody even thought about the possibility of getting someone in an arm bar or a choke a guy like Lennie wouldnt even of seen that as real fighting......times change and today fit capable young lads having one on ones are looking to technical proficiency to end a fight rather than strength and aggression.....to me theres something far more satisfying about ending a fight by punching somebody in the face than there is by wrapping them up in a choke and have them go to sleep in your arms.....but then im of that same old school as well so its just different times.

Edited January 23, 2023 by gnasher16

[lurcherman 887 13,250]

1 minute ago, Blackmag said:

Ok

It’s not greb mate 

[chartpolski 24,291]

8 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Back to football. I don't doubt Hackney Marshes has bred many, many brilliant players. But, genuine question. Has a boys club ever produced more pro players than Wallsend Boys Club in the North East?

They have a prolific prodution line. I bet every club in the country send scouts there. Off the top of my head.... Shearer, Waddle, Bruce, Beardsley Supermac( Newcastles number 9 for many years). The list goes on.

Scotland used to produce top players, but they dried up for some reason. The North East continues to a be a hotbed of talent.

Malcolm Macdonald is very much an adopted Geordie, but he never attended Wallsend boys club. He's a cockney, born in Fulham.

Cheers.

[lurcherman 887 13,250]

Just now, gnasher16 said:

Its just different times.....in his day very few people could cope with Lennie in a stand up but in todays times against a fit and dedicated mma fighter of equal size no of course not......back then nobody even thought about the possibility of getting someone in an arm bar or a choke a guy like Lennie wouldnt even of seen that as real fighting......times change and today fit aggressive young lads having one on ones are looking to technical proficiency to end a fight rather than strength and aggression.....to me theres something far more satisfying about ending a fight by punching somebody in the face than there is by wrapping them up in a choke and have them go to sleep in your arms.....but then im of that same old school as well so its just different times.

You ever get in the ring with Lennie sparring or anything mate 

[jukel123 8,480]

Just now, chartpolski said:

Malcolm Macdonald is very much an adopted Geordie, but he never attended Wallsend boys club. He's a cockney, born in Fulham.

Cheers.

Oops.

[Blackmag 6,103]

22 minutes ago, Dutch said:

East Ham mate. 

My apologies buddy I thought you was some one else 

[mC HULL 13,241]

3 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

Ok

that’s how radged the cockneys are you go

to east ham to watch west ham  

[mC HULL 13,241]

4 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Its just different times.....in his day very few people could cope with Lennie in a stand up but in todays times against a fit and dedicated mma fighter of equal size no of course not......back then nobody even thought about the possibility of getting someone in an arm bar or a choke a guy like Lennie wouldnt even of seen that as real fighting......times change and today fit capable young lads having one on ones are looking to technical proficiency to end a fight rather than strength and aggression.....to me theres something far more satisfying about ending a fight by punching somebody in the face than there is by wrapping them up in a choke and have them go to sleep in your arms.....but then im of that same old school as well so its just different times.

id rather get punched unconscious then choked unconscious gnash horrible feeling once you realise your helpless