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[jukel123 7,994]

Fickle football! Read a couple of articles suggesting Eddie Howe is heading for the sack, as is EHT at United. If the former is true,its the Geordies loss.

EHT will probably get the push. He did fantastic last year, but he was allowed to sign players of his own limited choosing...f****n Anthony for eighty    million! Which even by United's discombobulated recruitment strategy is farcical.Still, if a half decent backroom staff were present,they would have put the brakes on that monumental mistake.

 The days of a manager single handedly picking players to sign are long gone in the the best run clubs. It's too important a role for one individual. Although the manager imo, should always have a big  say.

The new man, Ratcliffe ,is a hard nosed,mother f****n, super capitalist, so he will no doubt tighten up all sorts of slack at United. But I'm not holding my breath for a new Fergie era. If it ever does come,I will be pushing up daisies for sure. Its going to take a decade or more.

 

Edited December 27, 2023 by jukel123

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Fickle football! Read a couple of articles suggesting Eddie Howe is heading for the sack, as is EHT at United. If the former is true,its the Geordies loss.

EHT will probably get the push. He did fantastic last year, but he was allowed to sign players of his own limited choosing...f****n Anthony for eighty    million! Which even by United's discombobulated recruitment strategy is farcical.Still, if a half decent backroom staff were present,they would have put the brakes on that monumental mistake. So it's hardly his mistake. The days of a manager single handedly picking players to sign are long gone in the the best run clubs. It's too important a role for one individual. Although the manager imo, should always have a big  say.

The new man, Ratcliffe ,is a hard nosed,mother f****n, super capitalist, so he will no doubt tighten up all sorts of slack at United. But I'm not holding my breath for a new Fergie era. If it ever does come,I will be pushing up daisies for sure. Its going to take a decade or more.

 

What’s sadly needed at united is a clear out. Sadly I reckon they’ve chased good money after bad and I don’t see much else other than a complete and utter cull of the majority . It’s horrific to see . 

it’s completely reminiscent of those horrifying Liverpool sides of the 90s and early 00s who were full of past their best legends and total charlatans who should have Been nowhere near the club . Theirs a serious argument to be made that Liverpool rescued themselves with the influx of local talent who knew at least what it meant to be a red man . Fowler , gerrard , Owen , carragher etc . 

when you look at United in a microcosm in paper they work . But imho they need a far more powerful character in charge than the past few . A cappello type who will simply not accept the likes of sancho and rashfords which way the wind blows attitude. Financially though , it may not be palatable There’s a long road to be walked there . 

[chartpolski 23,474]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Fickle football! Read a couple of articles suggesting Eddie Howe is heading for the sack, as is EHT at United. If the former is true,its the Geordies loss.

EHT will probably get the push. He did fantastic last year, but he was allowed to sign players of his own limited choosing...f****n Anthony for eighty    million! Which even by United's discombobulated recruitment strategy is farcical.Still, if a half decent backroom staff were present,they would have put the brakes on that monumental mistake. So it's hardly his mistake. The days of a manager single handedly picking players to sign are long gone in the the best run clubs. It's too important a role for one individual. Although the manager imo, should always have a big  say.

The new man, Ratcliffe ,is a hard nosed,mother f****n, super capitalist, so he will no doubt tighten up all sorts of slack at United. But I'm not holding my breath for a new Fergie era. If it ever does come,I will be pushing up daisies for sure. Its going to take a decade or more.

 

Howe hasn’t lost the players, and possibly just as important, the supporters.

The owners aren’t stupid, if they sack Howe now, they risk losing both and any new manager coming in would be in a difficult position.

If we lose the next three games, Liverpool, Sunderland and Aston Villa, the crowd could turn on Howe and that would give the owners the excuse to go for Morinhio who appears to be waiting in the wings.

It might come down to who we buy in January, but not one supporter I know wants Kalvin Philips, the opinion is if he can’t get a game for City, why should we break the wage structure for him ?

To paraphrase the Chinese saying; “ we Newcastle supporters live in interesting times .” !

Cheers.

[jukel123 7,994]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

Howe hasn’t lost the players, and possibly just as important, the supporters.

The owners aren’t stupid, if they sack Howe now, they risk losing both and any new manager coming in would be in a difficult position.

If we lose the next three games, Liverpool, Sunderland and Aston Villa, the crowd could turn on Howe and that would give the owners the excuse to go for Morinhio who appears to be waiting in the wings.

It might come down to who we buy in January, but not one supporter I know wants Kalvin Philips, the opinion is if he can’t get a game for City, why should we break the wage structure for him ?

To paraphrase the Chinese saying; “ we Newcastle supporters live in interesting times .” !

Cheers.

Mourhino is a shadow of Howe. You don't want  him mate. He's trouble,very divisive.

You have got hard fixtures. Even if you lose them all. The board should stick with Howe imo.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Mourhino is a shadow of Howe. You don't want  him mate. He's trouble,very divisive.

You have got hard fixtures. Even if you lose them all. The board should stick with Howe imo.

I don’t agree with that , I’d personally say mourinho is arguably tailor made for Newcastle 

[jukel123 7,994]

7 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

I don’t agree with that , I’d personally say mourinho is arguably tailor made for Newcastle 

When he came to United he saddled us with Pogba and a few other barnacles.

Yes he had a quick effect but his shine begins to tarnish after a season or two.

He lived in a hotel all the time he was at United. He never intended to build anything, it was just a flying visit.

He then engineered his exit and a pay off by continually publicly criticising players..even humiliating them. Shaw,one of our best players  was given dog's abuse by Mourhino.

I think  he's history now. There are a lot of better managers out there. He comes with a lot of baggage. Its all about him. Never the team or the supporters.

But the Geordies have got a brilliant manager,they are just going through a bad spell.I think the board and the supporters know that. 

Edited December 28, 2023 by jukel123

[steve66 3,448]

10 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

What’s sadly needed at united is a clear out. Sadly I reckon they’ve chased good money after bad and I don’t see much else other than a complete and utter cull of the majority . It’s horrific to see . 

it’s completely reminiscent of those horrifying Liverpool sides of the 90s and early 00s who were full of past their best legends and total charlatans who should have Been nowhere near the club . Theirs a serious argument to be made that Liverpool rescued themselves with the influx of local talent who knew at least what it meant to be a red man . Fowler , gerrard , Owen , carragher etc . 

when you look at United in a microcosm in paper they work . But imho they need a far more powerful character in charge than the past few . A cappello type who will simply not accept the likes of sancho and rashfords which way the wind blows attitude. Financially though , it may not be palatable There’s a long road to be walked there . 

Believe David Brailsford is coming in , now there one ruthless bloke that winning means everything 

going to be an interesting time at united to see how it plays out 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840]

9 hours ago, jukel123 said:

When he came to United he saddled us with Pogba and a few other barnacles.

Yes he had a quick effect but his shine begins to tarnish after a season or two.

He lived in a hotel all the time he was at United. He never intended to build anything, it was just a flying visit.

He then engineered his exit and a pay off by continually publicly criticising players..even humiliating them. Shaw,one of our best players  was given dog's abuse by Mourhino.

I think  he's history now. There are a lot of better managers out there. He comes with a lot of baggage. Its all about him. Never the team or the supporters.

But the Geordies have got a brilliant manager,they are just going through a bad spell.I think the board and the supporters know that. 

So , I’ll answer that with one sentence . 

“what has Eddie Howe won in comparison to Jose mourinho ? “ 

jose up there , with the inevitable Abraham and greenwood up top would turn Newcastle into the uk’s most disliked club over night . 

which plays right into the hands of Jose. 

shaw was fat and overweight at the time and was struggling with his stamina in games, truthfully hand in heart , has shaw improved as a player since the euros final ? 

as I’ve said before , Jose is tailer made for nufc . 
 

[keepdiggin 9,559]

Wonder how many “new” fans Newcastle have got now… 

[eastcoast 4,118]

20 minutes ago, keepdiggin said:

Wonder how many “new” fans Newcastle have got now… 

I wasn't aware that we had any? The new owners have only been here 5 minutes and we have not won anything to attract new fans, merely played some nice football. The only reason St. James' Park was not being filled under Mike Ashley was because of some fans' opinion of Mike Ashley. Rightly or wrongly, depending on your opinion, some old fans chose to stay away. Now those old fans are back and the ground is sold out every game. I do hope we get new fans though, that would mean that have started winning things. All are welcome. It's only a game.

[Blackmag 6,067]

I watched the highlights before of Everton city is that really handball the ball being hit at you from such a close distance not for me  and the second one if it's offside why let play carry on when there's a risk to players being injured as was the case last night who actually makes theses rules up 

[jukel123 7,994]

Wilf lad,you should publicly apologise to Moyes and lick his boots after tonight's result. 

[WILF 46,786]

45 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Wilf lad,you should publicly apologise to Moyes and lick his boots after tonight's result. 

Couldn’t give two fucks mate, f**k him and his gutless football

[Blackmag 6,067]

Watched that woman ref at are game last night she struggled at championship level getting her positioning wrong a lot of the game handing cards out for fun then sent a Sheffield Wednesday player off with a straight red still don't think it was yellow never mind red she's certainly just ticking boxes for the powers that be 

[Blackmag 6,067]

On 28/12/2023 at 23:10, WILF said:

Couldn’t give two fucks mate, f**k him and his gutless football

It's not pretty but it gets you results and up to sixth and I was reading about a new contract for moyse in new year