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[NEWKID 27,152]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

Declan Rice is a player mate, have no doubt in your mind about that !

And, with all due respect you are not making much sense ?

For starters Lampard was an 8 and Rice is a 6.

Lampard was playing in a team of absolute killers and Rice (at 24) has spent his entire career at a club who’s sole goal is staying up every year and hopefully grabbing 10th (as a rule of thumb) 

Rice has had 6 games under a coach who will possibly give him the freedom to get forward more but his role is bigger.

Every team needs a Dunga, the uninitiated don’t really notice the Dunga type players but their contribution is essential. 
 

I have said since I watched Rice playing Cheltenham away when he was about 19 that the lad is so good you don’t notice him…..everything he does is simple in an age where everyone wants to be seen doing the impossible. 
Simple is a hard skill  

I watched a video of Rice driving passes 50 yds into a goal the size of a wash bin !!……and I mean pinging them.

Lads a baller mate, clubs like Arsenal don’t cough up a hundred million quid on empty tracksuits pal  

Makele.... Frank had license to go anywhere as he had the best holding midfielder doing the donkey work... 

[jukel123 8,017]

Just now, NEWKID said:

As a UTD fan its a hard decision between Robbo and Keane, I'm younger than Jukel and not from the area, but Robson was my favourite player as a kid...he had the lot... but so did Keane, forget stats, Keane was a monster in the midfield, a proper player and respected by everyone who played with or against him... I'm surprised at the remark about not technically gifted!! He was 2 footed, good in the air, could tackle, beat a player, arrive late in the box to score, score from outside of the box, lead a team better than anyone ..nah he was very very gifted

OK careless terminology. I grant you that. But I always got the feeling that Keanes ability was like Keegan's perseverance and determination rather than God given.

[NEWKID 27,152]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

Declan Rice is a player mate, have no doubt in your mind about that !

And, with all due respect you are not making much sense ?

For starters Lampard was an 8 and Rice is a 6.

Lampard was playing in a team of absolute killers and Rice (at 24) has spent his entire career at a club who’s sole goal is staying up every year and hopefully grabbing 10th (as a rule of thumb) 

Rice has had 6 games under a coach who will possibly give him the freedom to get forward more but his role is bigger.

Every team needs a Dunga, the uninitiated don’t really notice the Dunga type players but their contribution is essential. 
 

I have said since I watched Rice playing Cheltenham away when he was about 19 that the lad is so good you don’t notice him…..everything he does is simple in an age where everyone wants to be seen doing the impossible. 
Simple is a hard skill  

I watched a video of Rice driving passes 50 yds into a goal the size of a wash bin !!……and I mean pinging them.

Lads a baller mate, clubs like Arsenal don’t cough up a hundred million quid on empty tracksuits pal  

Rice and Bellingham for England must be the most exciting potential since the Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes days...gonna be great players im sure 

[NEWKID 27,152]

1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

OK careless terminology. I grant you that. But I always got the feeling that Keanes ability was like Keegan's perseverance and determination rather than God given.

Yeah maybe mate, he worked hard at his game no doubt... bit like Ronaldo v Messi ... Messi natural Ronaldo graft... still greats.

[WILF 46,809]

2 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

Makele.... Frank had license to go anywhere as he had the best holding midfielder doing the donkey work... 

Absolutely, then you throw into the mix all the other players defences had to worry about……Cole, Drogba…..the list is endless.

Who you going to mark out of that lot ! Lol 

[NEWKID 27,152]

@jukel123

I know youve watched UTD since a kid, I would've loved to have seen Charlton in his pomp, would you have him as your favourite?

[NEWKID 27,152]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Absolutely, then you throw into the mix all the other players defences had to worry about……Cole, Drogba…..the list is endless.

Who you going to mark out of that lot ! Lol 

I think essien was the other midfielder in that team, strong player as well... that spine with Terry and Drogba included were massive...

[NEWKID 27,152]

Tottenham look like a different team.under the new manager and with Kane gone, what a bit of business Maddison is looking under £40m weren't he?

Agree with Wilf on Arsenal, havevt got the killer edge, great football but lack it.. 

Newcastle are looking good again, love what Howe is doing there, I really hope he gets a good run with them now, he's a very smart coach 

[WILF 46,809]

3 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

@jukel123

I know youve watched UTD since a kid, I would've loved to have seen Charlton in his pomp, would you have him as your favourite?

One of my favourite football story’s, a right footed player who just practiced relentlessly with his left foot until both were as strong as each other 

[NEWKID 27,152]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

Absolutely, then you throw into the mix all the other players defences had to worry about……Cole, Drogba…..the list is endless.

Who you going to mark out of that lot ! Lol 

Anyone but Drogba!! Lol

[WILF 46,809]

Just now, NEWKID said:

Anyone but Drogba!! Lol

Remember how hard Jimmy Floyd could hit a ball mate ? 
amazing 

[NEWKID 27,152]

Just now, WILF said:

Remember how hard Jimmy Floyd could hit a ball mate ? 
amazing 

Yeah, the phrase "ping it" was made for him!!

[NEWKID 27,152]

Or maybe Yeboah!! Lol

[jukel123 8,017]

1 hour ago, NEWKID said:

@jukel123

I know youve watched UTD since a kid, I would've loved to have seen Charlton in his pomp, would you have him as your favourite?

Definitely not. Just after Munich,I asked him and Albert Quixall for their autographs. Albert Quixall obliged no problem. Charlton threw a heavy mud encrusted ball at my head, which caused me to fall over ( I was eight) and stalked off without signing. I have never forgiven him.Lol

Tbh my watching of Utd as a kid was mainly confined to the reserves as it was cheaper. I can remember watching the first team on a few occasions and he was certainly the stand out player.

But it would be Robson for me. He really did have it all. Always consistent.

Charltons favourite player was Duncan Edwards. He said he was the best he'd ever seen. But as you know he perished in the Munich disaster. 

Edited September 25, 2023 by jukel123

[NEWKID 27,152]

1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

Definitely not. Just after Munich,I asked him and Albert Quixall for their autographs. Albert Quixall obliged no problem. Charlton threw a heavy mud encrusted ball at my head, which caused me to fall over ( I was eight) and stlked off without signing. I have never forgiven him.Lol

Tbh my watching of Utd as a kid was mainly confined to the reserves as it was cheaper. I can remember watching the first team on a few occasions and he was certainly the stand out player.

But it would be Robson for me. He really did have it all. Always consistent.

Great story mate, nice to know you still hold the grudge!! Lol

Robson was brilliant wasn't he, epitome of box to box.... I know Keane based a lot of his game on what he learnt from Robbo... shame for Robbo his career was coming to an end as Fergie started to get it right..