8 weeks.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

I’m a one for letting a pup be a pup .If you ever chance to breed a litter and keep the lot watch how things develop .From 5 weeks to about 8 the pups want to be together in a ball when they arnt playing or feeding .From 8 weeks they play together but if given space they are happy to find a spot to sleep alone .From 10 weeks on they are very much individuals and should be treated as such .IMO 5-8 weeks is far too early to take a pup from its siblings .For that very same reason with the last litter or rather pup singular I bred I went out my way to get another pup to keep it company and to play with .A mate gave me a slightly older pup at 5 weeks that the bitch immediately took to .Pups need the company of other pups until such time as they find their own place in the order of things .

Id never accept a pup under 8 weeks but nor would I want a pup of older than 12 weeks .Around a year it’s different but a pup needs to fit in early or it struggles to find its place in a pack .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

I’m a one for letting a pup be a pup .If you ever chance to breed a litter and keep the lot watch how things develop .From 5 weeks to about 8 the pups want to be together in a ball when they arnt playing or feeding .From 8 weeks they play together but if given space they are happy to find a spot to sleep alone .From 10 weeks on they are very much individuals and should be treated as such .IMO 5-8 weeks is far too early to take a pup from its siblings .For that very same reason with the last litter or rather pup singular I bred I went out my way to get another pup to keep it company and to play with .A mate gave me a slightly older pup at 5 weeks that the bitch immediately took to .Pups need the company of other pups until such time as they find their own place in the order of things .

Id never accept a pup under 8 weeks but nor would I want a pup of older than 12 weeks .Around a year it’s different but a pup needs to fit in early or it struggles to find its place in a pack .

[jukel123 7,957]

I think I've been persuaded 8 weeks is right. Thanks for your input gents.

[mC HULL 12,281]

14 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Off topic, but I watch a programme called Animal Cops, its based in the states. They often get called to dig out pups which have  been whelped under sheds etc. I've never seen a pup be aggressive they always go into submission mode. Wild kittens, as I know from experience, generally bite and scratch like crazy.

Both dogs and cats have been around man for a similar period? I guess, but cats are instinctively distrustful of man whilst dogs are just the opposite. Why?

me pal had a litter a terrier on a piece a land bitch  took the pups and put em in a warren weaned em on rats he would take em to  the welp box she be off with em again it was crazy to watch he left her to it in the end  

[jukel123 7,957]

Were the pups easy to handle?

[mC HULL 12,281]

6 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Were the pups easy to handle?

yes mate bitch was sound a good bitch they was just like her 

[mC HULL 12,281]

31 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

I’m a one for letting a pup be a pup .If you ever chance to breed a litter and keep the lot watch how things develop .From 5 weeks to about 8 the pups want to be together in a ball when they arnt playing or feeding .From 8 weeks they play together but if given space they are happy to find a spot to sleep alone .From 10 weeks on they are very much individuals and should be treated as such .IMO 5-8 weeks is far too early to take a pup from its siblings .For that very same reason with the last litter or rather pup singular I bred I went out my way to get another pup to keep it company and to play with .A mate gave me a slightly older pup at 5 weeks that the bitch immediately took to .Pups need the company of other pups until such time as they find their own place in the order of things .

Id never accept a pup under 8 weeks but nor would I want a pup of older than 12 weeks .Around a year it’s different but a pup needs to fit in early or it struggles to find its place in a pack .

when i’ve had litters there up about fighting like f**k chasing about by 4-5 week old mate 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

You are mistaking rough and tumble for fighting mate ,after which they sleep in a ball .

[mC HULL 12,281]

Just now, foxdropper said:

You are mistaking rough and tumble for fighting mate ,after which they sleep in a ball .

yes mate they will all ball up after a good play about 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

yes mate they will all ball up after a good play about 

That changes at about 8 -10 weeks mate if you’ve noticed .

[mC HULL 12,281]

new born5 week 8 week on daughter bed ragging shit  

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Lol.. some of the replies are golden

Your raising pups not lion cubs lol

Also seems folk just want shot of the wee terriorsts instead of watching observing and loving the future prospects.

I personally try and keep them all to there about 11 to 12 weeks old...and there still given away for free no expense spared and raised on best of Lidl 20% fat chicken wings chicken thighs sardines some kibble and plenty of fresh vegetables and well wormed....they all get the run of a big yard there kept all clean and well socialized... They will be allowed to sort out any litter mates squabbles between themselves and their mother within reason of course.

They will have been on a lead they will have been in the house and they will have met every other family members in the yard as in their older cousins aunts uncles so on...they will have been out in terrier boxes in the van been to fields seen some stock and all will be quiet confident pups...I usually keep at least 2 pups from litters and choose as best I can were they go... And I never need Epsom salts or any of that ... I've seen a bitch still let pups at 12 weeks suckle the last out of her.... 

Just the way I do things.

Edited December 18, 2022 by stop.end
Added a few pictures

[mC HULL 12,281]

5 minutes ago, stop.end said:

Lol.. some of the replies are golden

Your raising pups not lion cubs lol

Also seems folk just want shot of the wee terriorsts instead of watching observing and loving the future prospects.

I personally try and keep them all to there about 11 to 12 weeks old...and there still given away for free no expense spared and raised on best of Lidl 20% fat chicken wings chicken thighs sardines some kibble and plenty of fresh vegetables and well wormed....they all get the run of a big yard there kept all clean and well socialized... They will be allowed to sort out any litter mates squabbles between themselves and their mother within reason of course.

They will have been on a lead they will have been in the house and they will have met every other family members in the yard as in their older cousins aunts uncles so on...they will have been out in terrier boxes in the van been to fields seen some stock and all will be quiet confident pups...I usually keep at least 2 pups from litters and choose as best I can were they go... And I never need Epsom salts or any of that ... I've seen a bitch still let pups at 12 weeks suckle the last out of her.... 

Just the way I do things.

you must be raising some right dull pups 12 weeks still suckling why would you want the bitch getting hammer for that long ?

i worm the bitch from 7 week with panacure until a few days after birth then the pups every 2 week by  3and half week there already on mince goats milk and bits and bobs plus arden grange puppy kibble 

sociaised with kids my dog pup seems sound  

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3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

you must be raising some right dull pups 12 weeks still suckling why would you want the bitch getting hammer for that long ?

i worm the bitch from 7 week with panacure until a few days after birth then the pups every 2 week by  3and half week there already on mince goats milk and bits and bobs plus arden grange puppy kibble 

sociaised with kids my dog pup seems sound  

Lol.. IL bite for a minute because I'm bored chunk.... Bitch get hammered lol.. wise up your niavety is shining through... Do you think there steady on the tit... They will have been weaned at 3 week... The bitch will put manners in anything any pup does ..if she doesn't like it... There teeth rip there tits lol.. I'm walking from this convo now..good evening to you.

[Black neck 15,875]

Just now, stop.end said:

Lol.. IL bite for a minute because I'm bored chunk.... Bitch get hammered lol.. wise up your niavety is shining through... Do you think there steady on the tit... They will have been weaned at 3 week... The bitch will put manners in anything any pup does ..if she doesn't like it... There teeth rip there tits lol.. I'm walking from this convo now..good evening to you.

Oh come on stay for abit it's Xmas