VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, TOMO said: are they altering the vaccine for the mutations. .is that what's happening and the reason for multiple boosters?... genuine question anybody know? Don’t take up running…..it’s all a conspiracy to hide the jab heart attacks. People should “avoid long runs” in new year because NHS can’t cope with injuries UK.NEWS.YAHOO.COM This winter is likely to be the worst on record for A&E waiting times as hospitals struggle to cope with rocketing demand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I don't know, mate. I had the origional two vaccines and one booster. I had a very serious bout of Covid, then had another which was like a mild cold, and I wouldn't have known it was Covid if I hadn't had a positive test. Been fine for many months, I'm a reasonably fit, healthy and active 70 year old, so have the vaccines protected me or have I built up a degree of immunity, or is it a combination of the two ? I certainly do not regret having the vaccine, and suffered no after effects, that doesn't mean others haven't. Cheers. Combination of two fella, if you get the Covid every six months you’ll never have to get the jab again…..but don’t forget you’ll be taking your chances with the long Covid…. thats tongue in cheek Charts….being serious Good Health and a happy new year…. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,217 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, VOON said: Don’t take up running…..it’s all a conspiracy to hide the jab heart attacks. People should “avoid long runs” in new year because NHS can’t cope with injuries UK.NEWS.YAHOO.COM This winter is likely to be the worst on record for A&E waiting times as hospitals struggle to cope with rocketing demand. so there are more people ill with flu...even though there's a vaccine. ..and strep... wonder if there all the people that had the Covid jab...that are getting ill... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, TOMO said: so there are more people ill with flu...even though there's a vaccine. ..and strep... wonder if there all the people that had the Covid jab...that are getting ill... How would that impact on Step and Flu? Flu jab is generally 50-60% effective…. That’s if the get the variants right when formulating it…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,196 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, VOON said: How many people die from a cold? I see what you mean voon,didnt mean to downgrade it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,196 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, VOON said: Combination of two fella, if you get the Covid every six months you’ll never have to get the jab again…..but don’t forget you’ll be taking your chances with the long Covid…. thats tongue in cheek Charts….being serious Good Health and a happy new year…. Long covid? How can you have long covid from a virus that gets weaker an weaker? Why is there no long flu?? Your sure its not the spike protein raring its head again? They say the sike pprotein bes destryed after 2weeks, but other researchers say it dont an its there for good? It would make sense because most anyone im talking to whos jabbed up are catching covid again an flu an whatever else floating about. I worked through the whole thing,came into contact way positive cases all the time,im not jabbed an i havent been sick,thank the lord. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Francie, said: Long covid? How can you have long covid from a virus that gets weaker an weaker? Why is there no long flu?? Your sure its not the spike protein raring its head again? They say the sike pprotein bes destryed after 2weeks, but other researchers say it dont an its there for good? It would make sense because most anyone im talking to whos jabbed up are catching covid again an flu an whatever else floating about. I worked through the whole thing,came into contact way positive cases all the time,im not jabbed an i havent been sick,thank the lord. Long Covid is now considered a side effect. Flu and Covid are not the same ( do you remember this was fear-mongering, how Covid would effect us in the long run) long Covid is occurring more in the un-vaccinated so doesn’t point to the jab being a cause…please read the articles I post there quite informative. i worked through the whole lot as well, was a at party last Christmas where 18 people got Covid and I didn’t……I was in the bed with the missus, shifted her shagged her and still didn’t get it….only thing I was fully Vaccinated and boosted….they’re younger so they weren’t….but no issues only my sister and her husband who are anti vac were dying….. oh my bad….was that misogynistic….THL is turning me into a right wing anti woke hurrah not sure about the spike protein I’ll endeavour to find out.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Failure to help long Covid sufferers could add billions to benefits bill WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Exclusive: Labour says worklessness due to people suffering from the virus long-term could be costing £3bn a year 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Impact of COVID-19 vaccination on the risk of developing long-COVID and on existing long-COVID symptoms: A systematic review WWW.THELANCET.COM Low level of evidence (grade III, case-controls, cohort studies) suggests that vaccination before SARS-CoV-2 infection could reduce the risk of subsequent... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Never heard of a long “cold” Franice https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o988 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,196 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, VOON said: Long Covid is now considered a side effect. Flu and Covid are not the same ( do you remember this was fear-mongering, how Covid would effect us in the long run) long Covid is occurring more in the un-vaccinated so doesn’t point to the jab being a cause…please read the articles I post there quite informative. i worked through the whole lot as well, was a at party last Christmas where 18 people got Covid and I didn’t……I was in the bed with the missus, shifted her shagged her and still didn’t get it….only thing I was fully Vaccinated and boosted….they’re younger so they weren’t….but no issues only my sister and her husband who are anti vac were dying….. oh my bad….was that misogynistic….THL is turning me into a right wing anti woke hurrah not sure about the spike protein I’ll endeavour to find out.. You reckon long covid affecting the unjabbed mate,so how have they actually diagnosed this long covid caper? What i meant was there both respiratory ilness how come its only covid that gives 'long covid' an not long flu,any idea? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,526 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 well that's 3 people I know who were all jabbed up,who have died in 10 days from suspected heart failure...and all under 41...that's 6 kids lost a parent something is going on .... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,196 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Daniel cain said: well that's 3 people I know who were all jabbed up,who have died in 10 days from suspected heart failure...and all under 41...that's 6 kids lost a parent something is going on .... I know of 4 people in my area that died of heart problems after the jab,one was a kid with underlying issues,but i didnt put it on here,iv seen enough with my lying eyes,no need to listen to the 'experts' anymore dan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Francie, said: You reckon long covid affecting the unjabbed mate,so how have they actually diagnosed this long covid caper? What i meant was there both respiratory ilness how come its only covid that gives 'long covid' an not long flu,any idea? Can effect jabbed and unjabbed Francie….Some studies have shown that it doesn’t effect jabbed as much….haven’t read much on the causes….. but I know really fit people, triathletes marathon runners, who weren’t really sick with Covid who have been effected quite badly….hear lots of stories like that whether true or not I can’t vouch for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: well that's 3 people I know who were all jabbed up,who have died in 10 days from suspected heart failure...and all under 41...that's 6 kids lost a parent something is going on .... God rest them….. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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