chartpolski 25,105 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:19, TOMO said: I will just say this though....what other vaccine apart from a yearly flu jab....would people need 5 jabs for in 18 month...seems crazy really... look at smallpox...polio etc...one jab as a kid...job done Expand I'm not sure, and to be honest, and I don't care if people have the vax or not, it's a personal choice, but I'm guessing 'flu and Covid keep mutating, therefore needing updated vaccines, where the other diseases you mention don't. Im not adding to the argument, just giving a view, I'm certainly not qualified to give definitive answers or opinions Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,447 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:17, VOON said: Listen and watch his videos Francie, he tells us in every video he posts…… Expand I dont really watch anything covid anymore voon, iv made my decisions,an as tomo says you got 5 shots in under 18months for a cold then there shit vaccines,bring back the tried an tested methods,at least we know they were safe. I will not contribute to proven shysters an liars conmen to make them billions upon billions in three months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:29, Francie, said: I dont really watch anything covid anymore voon, iv made my decisions,an as tomo says you got 5 shots in under 18months for a cold then there shit vaccines,bring back the tried an tested methods,at least we know they were safe. I will not contribute to proven shysters an liars conmen to make them billions upon billions in three months. Expand That’s your view A1…..If you don’t watch anything on Covid what are you excited about a YouTuber then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:29, Francie, said: I dont really watch anything covid anymore voon, iv made my decisions,an as tomo says you got 5 shots in under 18months for a cold then there shit vaccines,bring back the tried an tested methods,at least we know they were safe. I will not contribute to proven shysters an liars conmen to make them billions upon billions in three months. Expand Flu 2017 CDC Newsroom WWW.CDC.GOV Press releases, advisories, telebriefings, transcripts and archives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,447 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:34, VOON said: That’s your view A1…..If you don’t watch anything on Covid what are you excited about a YouTuber then? Expand I just seen it because grey posted it but i knew he was on his way from previous videos. He was all for it at the start,i cant see how money would sway him to the other side,who did you say give him money to turn? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:39, Francie, said: I just seen it because grey posted it but i knew he was on his way from previous videos. He was all for it at the start,i cant see how money would sway him to the other side,who did you say give him money to turn? Expand He’s a YouTuber……Watch his videos…..about Ten of them….then we can discuss…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:29, Francie, said: I dont really watch anything covid anymore voon, iv made my decisions,an as tomo says you got 5 shots in under 18months for a cold then there shit vaccines,bring back the tried an tested methods,at least we know they were safe. I will not contribute to proven shysters an liars conmen to make them billions upon billions in three months. Expand Covid deaths COVID-19 Map - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center CORONAVIRUS.JHU.EDU Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,447 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) On 03/01/2023 at 11:36, VOON said: Flu 2017 CDC Newsroom WWW.CDC.GOV Press releases, advisories, telebriefings, transcripts and archives. Expand I edited this post as its 2017, whats your point voon? Edited January 3, 2023 by Francie, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just a 'bad flu'? How death notices debunk that Covid-19 myth WWW.MAYNOOTHUNIVERSITY.IE Excess mortality shows that Covid-19 killed more people in one month than the most recent severe flu season did in three. Research by Dr Gerard McCarthy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:47, Francie, said: Look at the last line on the first paragraph voon,the pandemic is going on three years now so the data must have been taken before then, an even at that it was only info from 47 countries,theres 180 odd countries in the world, not accurate at all, just more scaremongering from shysters who have stocks in theses vaccines. The estimate excludes deaths during pandemics. Tho i caught a flu about 12 years ago,delerious i was for two days,that was rough i tells ya,thankfully nothing since then mate. Expand How many people die from a cold? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 27,072 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:27, chartpolski said: I'm not sure, and to be honest, and I don't care if people have the vax or not, it's a personal choice, but I'm guessing 'flu and Covid keep mutating, therefore needing updated vaccines, where the other diseases you mention don't. Im not adding to the argument, just giving a view, I'm certainly not qualified to give definitive answers or opinions Cheers. Expand are they altering the vaccine for the mutations. .is that what's happening and the reason for multiple boosters?... genuine question anybody know? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:52, TOMO said: are they altering the vaccine for the mutations. .is that what's happening and the reason for multiple boosters?... genuine question anybody know? Expand They have for the last one I got….it’s adjusted for omnicron. they are measuring the platelets etc after each vaccine dose with efficacy afterwards. Each booster stimulates a better immune response….. it would work the same with getting Covid infections, but you have increased chances of long Covid etc….loads of studies in vaccine effectiveness now…..versus no vaccine…one shot etc…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:59, VOON said: They have for the last one I got….it’s adjusted for omnicron. they are measuring the platelets etc after each vaccine dose with efficacy afterwards. Each booster stimulates a better immune response….. it would work the same with getting Covid infections, but you have increased chances of long Covid etc….loads of studies in vaccine effectiveness now…..versus no vaccine…one shot etc…. Expand But it’s not the prime reason for boosters…..main reason was it was waning over time and which was putting hospitals under pressure…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 It’s the jab though innit……remember this in August when heart attacks spiked…. ‘Intolerable’ NHS crisis to continue until April, health leaders warn | NHS | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Ministers urged to recall parliament amid warnings patients are dying needlessly due to inaction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 25,105 Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 03/01/2023 at 11:52, TOMO said: are they altering the vaccine for the mutations. .is that what's happening and the reason for multiple boosters?... genuine question anybody know? Expand I don't know, mate. I had the origional two vaccines and one booster. I had a very serious bout of Covid, then had another which was like a mild cold, and I wouldn't have known it was Covid if I hadn't had a positive test. Been fine for many months, I'm a reasonably fit, healthy and active 70 year old, so have the vaccines protected me or have I built up a degree of immunity, or is it a combination of the two ? I certainly do not regret having the vaccine, and suffered no after effects, that doesn't mean others haven't. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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