Francie 6,368 Posted December 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, mushroom said: Until that twat admits he fell off the wall I’m all for a ban Mush was trying to pm you earlier,won't let me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 06/12/2022 at 20:08, Neobliviscaris1776 said: On a side note........how on earth can doctors say giving certain drugs that reduce your immune system be called treatment??? It's insane!!! If a doctor told me the best way to treat my auto immune condition or my weak immune system is to take a treatment that reduces my immune systems function even more....I would burst into laughter! You cannot be serious! This is not healthcare it's the opposite. Hidden in plain view Most auto immune diseases are due to an overly active immune response as in many forms of arthritis so reducing the response is the best management. link with more info below. Autoimmune Diseases: Causes, Symptoms, What Is It & Treatment MY.CLEVELANDCLINIC.ORG Autoimmune diseases like lupus, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis and psoriasis happen because your immune system attacks your body instead of... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) On 06/12/2022 at 17:06, Daniel cain said: I will say it again...If you need a jab because your scared of seasonal flu/cold...THEN YOUR A f***ing PUSSY WHIPPED WEAK ASS EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING That's an interesting idea. i get a flu jab every year and thankfully haven't had flu for a fair few years. This means i don't catch flu, real flu is not very nice, so save myself feeling crap, I don't infect my patients, who are often vulnerable, or family although I'm often in contact with positive people. I don't infect vulnerable people i interact with in the community such as my elderly neighbours or family. Basically the flu vaccine saves a few lives directly plus it saves a lot of money to society in that kids have less time off of school so parents don't have to take time off, people have less sick, better for them and the employer, hospital have less cases being admitted so beds are under less stress etc. So if I'm a "f***ing PUSSY WHIPPED WEAK ASS EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING" because I'm immune to the great majority of flu and a multiple number of other diseases due to vaccines and so very healthy with little in the way of sickness then i feel you have a strange idea of what being strong constituents. Edited December 8, 2022 by sandymere 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 back to Covid chaps. Died Suddenly: A tsunami of antivax misinformation and conspiracy theories SCIENCEBASEDMEDICINE.ORG Everything old is new again when it comes to antivax tropes. Stew Peters' antivax pseudodocumentary Died Suddenly resurrects the old antivax conspiracy that... A clot too far: An embalmer dissects antivax misinformation about blood clots in Died Suddenly SCIENCEBASEDMEDICINE.ORG Two weeks ago, COVID-19 conspiracy theorist Stew Peters released an antivax pseudodocumentary, Died Suddenly, whose main claim is that COVID-19 vaccines... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 46,226 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, sandymere said: That's an interesting idea. i get a flu jab every year and thankfully haven't had flu for a fair few years. This means i don't have flu which, real flu is not very nice so save myself feeling crap, I don't infect my patients, who are often vulnerable, or family although I'm often in contact with positive people. I don't infect vulnerable people i interact with in the community such as my elderly neighbours or family. Basically the flu vaccine saves a few lives directly plus it saves a lot of money to society in that kids have less time off of school so parents don't have to take time off, people have less sick, better for then and the employer, hospital have less cases being admitted so beds are under less stress etc. So if I'm a "f***ing PUSSY WHIPPED WEAK ASS EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING" because I'm immune to the great majority of flu and a multiple number of other diseases due to vaccines and so very healthy with little in the way of sickness then i feel you have a strange idea of what being strong constituents. You do what you are told to do, because of your profession...you were forced to take your jabs pal,thought you was some free thinking point break surfer type??? your no more than a sheep imo,sorry if that offends you ...it's all about lifestyle choices...the weak thought they would be missing out,love em,so you all complied....I will never be scared of catching a f***ing cold or some man flu..will carry on regardless,what will be,will be...lifes for living not being suppressed and controlled...I paddle my own canoe 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 38 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: You do what you are told to do, because of your profession...you were forced to take your jabs pal,thought you was some free thinking point break surfer type??? your no more than a sheep imo,sorry if that offends you ...it's all about lifestyle choices...the weak thought they would be missing out,love em,so you all complied....I will never be scared of catching a f***ing cold or some man flu..will carry on regardless,what will be,will be...lifes for living not being suppressed and controlled...I paddle my own canoe LOL, I don't get forced to do anything, I do what i do after personal consideration of a mixture of common sense and scientific evidence. If I was scared of catching something I wouldn't do what i do, using good evidence and common sense is how we avoid being controlled. Commom sense. I don't like catching the flu, makes you feel shite for a few days so I reduce my risk by getting vaccines. Science. The current vaccine seems to have a good outcome compared to the last years, Australia reporting 60% prevention, but even when it has a lower impact of completely stopping infection it still has benefits. The flu vaccine (flu shot or nasal spray vaccine) significantly reduces the risk of contracting the flu. Consider the 2019–2020 season: People who had the vaccine were 39% less likely to get the flu than those who did not. In addition to preventing illness, the flu vaccine also reduces the risk of hospitalization and death. Here’s what researchers have found about the flu vaccine:3 Getting the vaccine reduces the risk of intensive-care unit (ICU) hospitalization by 26% and the risk of death by 31%, according to a 2021 study.4 Among adults who are hospitalized for the flu, people who are vaccinated are 59% less likely to need intensive care unit (ICU) care, according to a 2018 study.5 People with heart disease who get the vaccine are less likely to experience cardiac events.6 People with diabetes and chronic lung disease who get the vaccine are less likely to be hospitalized for those conditions. Pregnant people who get the vaccine are 40% less likely to be hospitalized for flu than pregnant people who did not get the vaccine. In addition to protecting you, getting the flu vaccine can keep you from contracting the flu and passing it to others, including infants and the elderly, who are at higher risks for complications. Pregnant people who get the vaccine help protect their baby from the flu (passing on the protective antibodies developed by the vaccine), which can be valuable during the first six months of life when a child is not able to be vaccinated.7 What to Know About Flu Vaccine Effectiveness WWW.VERYWELLHEALTH.COM Flu vaccine efficacy fluctuates annually; recently they've ranged between 29% and 48% effective for prevention. Learn about available flu shot types. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky 3,325 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, sandymere said: LOL, I don't get forced to do anything, I do what i do after personal consideration of a mixture of common sense and scientific evidence. If I was scared of catching something I wouldn't do what i do, using good evidence and common sense is how we avoid being controlled. Commom sense. I don't like catching the flu, makes you feel shite for a few days so I reduce my risk by getting vaccines. Science. The current vaccine seems to have a good outcome compared to the last years, Australia reporting 60% prevention, but even when it has a lower impact of completely stopping infection it still has benefits. The flu vaccine (flu shot or nasal spray vaccine) significantly reduces the risk of contracting the flu. Consider the 2019–2020 season: People who had the vaccine were 39% less likely to get the flu than those who did not. In addition to preventing illness, the flu vaccine also reduces the risk of hospitalization and death. Here’s what researchers have found about the flu vaccine:3 Getting the vaccine reduces the risk of intensive-care unit (ICU) hospitalization by 26% and the risk of death by 31%, according to a 2021 study.4 Among adults who are hospitalized for the flu, people who are vaccinated are 59% less likely to need intensive care unit (ICU) care, according to a 2018 study.5 People with heart disease who get the vaccine are less likely to experience cardiac events.6 People with diabetes and chronic lung disease who get the vaccine are less likely to be hospitalized for those conditions. Pregnant people who get the vaccine are 40% less likely to be hospitalized for flu than pregnant people who did not get the vaccine. In addition to protecting you, getting the flu vaccine can keep you from contracting the flu and passing it to others, including infants and the elderly, who are at higher risks for complications. Pregnant people who get the vaccine help protect their baby from the flu (passing on the protective antibodies developed by the vaccine), which can be valuable during the first six months of life when a child is not able to be vaccinated.7 What to Know About Flu Vaccine Effectiveness WWW.VERYWELLHEALTH.COM Flu vaccine efficacy fluctuates annually; recently they've ranged between 29% and 48% effective for prevention. Learn about available flu shot types. One of the reasons I had the jabs was because our daughter, who was a staff nurse on covid wards, told us if we didnt and then caught it, we could possibly die due to our current age and health situation. Another reason was that I thought I could possibly go stark raving mad and start to see Lions, Leopards and Tigers behind every f***ing tree and bush in the f***ing kingdom! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 06/12/2022 at 21:03, chartpolski said: Got a couple of pairs, the civvie blue top and the military brown top. Got the military ones and the ecw socks off a Surplus site for less than £20 for the two pairs, but now the sealskins alone are £35 ! Maybe Santa will bring me some if I keep mentioning it to the missus ! Cheers. have the same ones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,603 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, paulus said: have the same ones They're the ones A little tip, don't put talc in them, it gets in the gortex Middle lining and goes hard ! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 52 minutes ago, micky said: go stark raving mad and start to see Lions, Leopards and Tigers behind every f***ing tree and bush in the f***ing kingdom! Ah, from a medical viewpoint we would need to separate the hallucinations from the delusions.. can have very different causes and treatments , whilst both give a false reality one is a false sensory perception whilst the other is a false belief. Mind if you start having both your fecked Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted December 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, sandymere said: Ah, from a medical viewpoint we would need to separate the hallucinations from the delusions.. can have very different causes and treatments , whilst both give a false reality one is a false sensory perception whilst the other is a false belief. Mind if you start having both your fecked So survival of the fittest an all that malarkey is out the window then 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Francie said: So survival of the fittest an all that malarkey is out the window then What?? survival of the fittest for humans went a long time ago, that's why the majorities of babies survive beyond the 1st few weeks. United Kingdom: child mortality rate 1800-2020 | Statista WWW.STATISTA.COM The child mortality rate in the United Kingdom, for children under the age of five, was 329 deaths per thousand births in 1800. and generally life expectancy has improved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: They're the ones A little tip, don't put talc in them, it gets in the gortex Middle lining and goes hard ! Cheers. Had them for years mate. Them, a good pair of boots and Gaiter's, Better than paddling around in wellingtons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,919 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, paulus said: Had them for years mate. Them, a good pair of boots and Gaiter's, Better than paddling around in wellingtons. I think Magoo might disagree with you. He regularly yomps 30 miles, over hill and dale, in Dunlop froggos!! Lol Edited December 8, 2022 by shaaark 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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