WILF 46,784 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, mushroom said: My question is wtf was Morgan doing there in the first place My first thought was “I wonder if that’s Mushroom ?” Lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,471 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just watched Harry Kane being interviewed, he's adamant that he will wear the puffs armband, even if he gets a yellow card for it and England get fined by FIFA. If all these LGBTGTV8+ footballers feel so strongly , why didn't they just refuse to go ? Cheers. 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,784 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Just watched Harry Kane being interviewed, he's adamant that he will wear the puffs armband, even if he gets a yellow card for it and England get fined by FIFA. If all these LGBTGTV8+ footballers feel so strongly , why didn't they just refuse to go ? Cheers. In one regard, fair play to him, FIFA can’t pick and choose the politics when all they have done is allowed football to be politicised. And he is there for the same reason we all kept watching while they spent a season giving a “f**k you” to white people everywhere. We can’t pick and choose either ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,903 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, WILF said: My first thought was “I wonder if that’s Mushroom ?” Lol I’m way too white to pull off a Morgan mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,903 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Just watched Harry Kane being interviewed, he's adamant that he will wear the puffs armband, even if he gets a yellow card for it and England get fined by FIFA. If all these LGBTGTV8+ footballers feel so strongly , why didn't they just refuse to go ? Cheers. I believe it has no part in the game. If I was in the Ukraine fighting right now, I wouldn’t give a fuuck who stands next to me as long as they are with me, back straight until the end Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,903 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, mushroom said: I’m way too white to pull off a Morgan mate Just realised that sounded wrong I could never pretend to be Morgan is what I meant 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,236 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Just watched Harry Kane being interviewed, he's adamant that he will wear the puffs armband, even if he gets a yellow card for it and England get fined by FIFA. If all these LGBTGTV8+ footballers feel so strongly , why didn't they just refuse to go ? Cheers. Agree. But if they felt so strongly about Qatar, then they should have stated when it was announced in 2010 that they’d boycott. Other countries I’m sure would have followed. Regards the armband, I’m not sure it’s even Kane’s choice. Call it virtue signalling, or whatever, but this decision will be a calculated PR one involving the FA no doubt. Said it for the BLM thing too, open the door to players and clubs making political gestures and where does it all stop? The thing is that what we see here, and with the BLM thing is blatant political coercion…, with people feeling forced to make these (actually empty) gestures of support for fear of being criticised…, and the media are the worst of the lot. I think a Qatari player wore an armband with the Palestinian flag today. Would an American player wearing a MAGA armband be acceptable? And.., I know this maybe won’t be popular on here, I see it with the poppy now too. Foreign players lined up to a man (or woman) donning a symbol which actually means absolutely nothing to them, just so that they or their club won’t get stick on social media for showing a lack of respect for ‘our’ fallen. I’d rather they didn’t wear it if it doesn’t mean the same to them as it does me. At least it would feel genuine. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,903 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, pesky1972 said: Agree. But if they felt so strongly about Qatar, then they should have stated when it was announced in 2010 that they’d boycott. Other countries I’m sure would have followed. Regards the armband, I’m not sure it’s even Kane’s choice. Call it virtue signalling, or whatever, but this decision will be a calculated PR one involving the FA no doubt. Said it for the BLM thing too, open the door to players and clubs making political gestures and where does it all stop? The thing is that what we see here, and with the BLM thing is blatant political coercion…, with people feeling forced to make these (actually empty) gestures of support for fear of being criticised…, and the media are the worst of the lot. I think a Qatari player wore an armband with the Palestinian flag today. Would an American player wearing a MAGA armband be acceptable? And.., I know this maybe won’t be popular on here, I see it with the poppy now too. Foreign players lined up to a man (or woman) donning a symbol which actually means absolutely nothing to them, just so that they or their club won’t get stick on social media for showing a lack of respect for ‘our’ fallen. I’d rather they didn’t wear it if it doesn’t mean the same to them as it does me. At least it would feel genuine. Nothing is genuine anymore mate. I will however respect the game and I love a good match, no matter the sport Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,784 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, baker boy said: Does anyone really give a shit how they treat the migrant workers over there, what they think about the lgbtq community or about their human rights abuses, cos I know I fckn dont Likewise mate, however, it’s great fun to talk about double standards from all these organisation from FIFA to the BBC to the government and even players……I personally couldn’t give a flying feck if they had the whole of Islamabad buried in the foundations of those stadiums. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,903 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, WILF said: Likewise mate, however, it’s great fun to talk about double standards from all these organisation from FIFA to the BBC to the government and even players……I personally couldn’t give a flying feck if they had the whole of Islamabad buried in the foundations of those stadiums. I’ll go with the double standard theme… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,236 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, baker boy said: Does anyone really give a shit how they treat the migrant workers over there, what they think about the lgbtq community or about their human rights abuses, cos I know I fckn dont I don’t care, nor think it’s any of my business how the Qataris treat anyone in their own country. Point is that one of the planet’s biggest and most prestigious sporting competitions shouldn’t have been anywhere near Qatar. Any due diligence would have (and no doubt did) foresee the current issues being raised, but the nod was given to them due to palms being greased.., a blind man could see that. Pains me to say it but the 2022 world cup should have been played in England in the summer. That a country with England’s standing in the game, stadia and infrastructure etc. hasn’t hosted the tournament in 56 years is nothing short of a scandal. They should have called foul in 2010 and refused to participate. Edited to add, Scotland would have no doubt boycotted in support Edited November 20, 2022 by pesky1972 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,784 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, pesky1972 said: I don’t care, nor think it’s any of my business how the Qataris treat anyone in their own country. Point is that one of the planet’s biggest and most prestigious sporting competitions shouldn’t have been anywhere near Qatar. Any due diligence would have (and no doubt did) foresee the current issues being raised, but the nod was given to them due to palms being greased.., a blind man could see that. Pains me to say it but the 2022 world cup should have been played in England in the summer. That a country with England’s standing in the game, stadia and infrastructure etc. hasn’t hosted the tournament in 56 years is nothing short of a scandal. They should have called foul in 2010 and refused to participate. Either way it would have been one long vomit-fest wouldn’t it mate. Don’t see much virtue signalling down non league I have to say. You get what you pay for I guess. Anyway, for some reason a tiny part of me hopes we go out in the group, it’s the nastier side of character that always wants to f**k up a party does that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,236 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, WILF said: Either way it would have been one long vomit-fest wouldn’t it mate. Very good point, which I hadn’t thought about. Can you imagine the opening ceremony, it’d be like some sort of Notting Hill/Pride mash up on steroids. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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mushroom 12,903 Posted November 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 Gan f**k yasen! It’s about the boys, not the bullshit! any man who gets to the top, they’ve done it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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