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7 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

No that’s desertbred ?

I miss old Desertbred....he gave as good as he got, and I had some good conversation in PM's with him.

How much of what he said was true, I don't know, but isn't that the norm on here ? ??

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38 minutes ago, FairLaw said:

Without a doubt, but frustratingly it isn't as simple as throw them back on a dinghy and said them straight back over the Channel.

There's a misconception that they are all wanting to come here though, France has a much bigger problem than the UK with asylum seekers.

I get the issues once they are here (rightly or wrongly), I do however believe there are far too many working age men who are only travelling here because of the economic benefits this country offers..

Surely stopping these benefits in the first place, or clamping down on the facilitators (wherever they are) to prevent the chain of events... as my first post, we are aiding Ukraine hugely in the war with Russia, with intelligence as well as hard ware, if we truly wanted to stop the flow of young male immigrants into the country we could... 

Once they are here we have set up a system where the human rights laws override any common sense and to deport is impossible..

I'm of the belief a certain level of processed/vetted immigration can be good for countries, we have lads on here who have left Britain and live in other countries, but will have had to go through a cetting process or be able to offer something on arrival... we are now facing tax hikes to pick up the national debt, all the while spending millions on housing thousands of illegal immigrants, it just makes no sense...unless you are benfitting from the system we have watched unfold over the past 20 years or so...

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48 minutes ago, FairLaw said:

Without a doubt, but frustratingly it isn't as simple as throw them back on a dinghy and said them straight back over the Channel.

There's a misconception that they are all wanting to come here though, France has a much bigger problem than the UK with asylum seekers.

On the last note, Sweden, France, Germany all have huge problems... the outcome is the same if you continue to let unvetted young male immigrants into your countries...

Refugees fleeing war torn countries should be supported, I would hope my wife and children would have a safe haven should the need arise... but these are not refugees, they are economic migrants...fine for people to improve their life but there must be a process in place so the migrant and the country benefits... currently there is only 1 winner...

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It could be stopped tomorrow I'm sure ,If the government had a backbone and said "that's it no more" ... we've taken more than our fair share...no room at the inn,f**k the EU, imagine that.....Then they could think about halving the native population of dossers and layabouts money so they have to get up off their arses and do abit to top up the free handouts ,we work and all pay for ,if they refuse,they get nothing simples...bingo no need to import 30 something males on rubber boats to fill these apparent job vacancies ?not f***ing rocket science to serve coffee or peddle a bike delivering food...f**k me over half the population are over weight and could do with the exercise surely ???

 

 

problem is the government are to busy worrying about hurting some shitstaines feelings or its human rights....but what about our human rights?

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5 minutes ago, FairLaw said:

Good post and I understand what you're saying, I don't think they get much benefits at all?

They need to be fed & clothed at the end of the day, even though most don't think we owe them anything we are a developed country with compassionate laws.

Regarding these benefits, it all depends on individual circumstances, i.e, what accomodation they are placed in, for example, if they are fed in their accomodation then  they are given £8.24 per week, up from £5 after a high court ruling.

Mate i don't know all the ins and outs of benefits, lest of all immigrants benefits...

But.... id bet my left nut that these lads travelling thousands of miles, crossing the Channel on a dinghy and spending all of their savings for the privilege, aren't doing it to come here for no reward... some may well go into full time work, pay the sane taxes as the rest of us, legitimately rent or buy a place, pay all the bills off there work earnings, integrate into the local community and be an asset to that community and the UK in general...but... I reckon a lot more will be making money other ways, working the system and taking out from day one and potentially never "putting in".... call it a gut feeling or perhaps its as plain as the nose on your face...

 

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If i travelled by air to any country in the world and i arrived without any paperwork, i would be detained by immigration and returned on the next available flight to where i had travelled from, Why is this not the same with migrants crossing the channel?. 

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25 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

On the last note, Sweden, France, Germany all have huge problems... the outcome is the same if you continue to let unvetted young male immigrants into your countries...

Refugees fleeing war torn countries should be supported, I would hope my wife and children would have a safe haven should the need arise... but these are not refugees, they are economic migrants...fine for people to improve their life but there must be a process in place so the migrant and the country benefits... currently there is only 1 winner...

Kev, France does not have anywhere near the problems that the UK has. Much of their inner cities are populated by legal migrants who came in from former French colonies. As such they are entitled to the same benefits, etc as the true French nationals.  These migrants riot and cause many issues but at the end of the day France invited them in.

Incidentally whereas in Britain there is a chronic housing shortage exasperated by having to find accommodation for increasing numbers of economic migrants who for whatever reason cannot be deported, France has exactly the opposite. Tens of thousands of houses empty, many will never be sold because they are old fashioned and without modern services. These derelict houses are decaying and causing problems for those owning houses joining them. A dooer upper can be bought for less than ten grand. Schools and businesses are closing because there are no young people in the rural villages. Where I live the greatest number of immigrants are Brits, Dutch and Romanians. The latter are being subsidised in rents and living costs just to fill empty houses and classrooms. The Romanian family in our village have 9 kids and according to our Dutch friends get over three grand a month in benefits. Yet they still don't pay their landlord the €50 per month rent after the social has paid the other €450. 

I rarely see a black face on the streets, in hospitals or when shopping. Other than the Romanian manouch its just us northern Europeans in rural France. A bit different in the cities, but nothing like you are seeing.

Germany and Sweden seem to be suffering the most after the UK from illegal immigration. I feel sorry for the Swedes as their hospitality is being abused, but the Germans brought it on themselves. 

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In most countries of the world, illegal immigrants sneak into a country, dissapear and join the "black economy", working illegally, and if caught are imprisoned or deported.

Here in the U.K., they are picked up mid channel by UK Border Force or the RNLI and brought ashore, put up in a hotel, given benefits and in the majority of cases, given asylum and a new life.

And we wonder why they do it ..............

Cheers.

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13 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

In most countries of the world, illegal immigrants sneak into a country, dissapear and join the "black economy", working illegally, and if caught are imprisoned or deported.

Here in the U.K., they are picked up mid channel by UK Border Force or the RNLI and brought ashore, put up in a hotel, given benefits and in the majority of cases, given asylum and a new life.

And we wonder why they do it ..............

Cheers.

Go figure eh!! ?

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When clever people do things that appear insane then you can only conclude it is completely deliberate !

What part of “you are under attack” doesn’t anyone want to believe ? 

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