tatsblisters 10,174 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Just seen on the news the government are looking at doing a Swissstyle deal with the EU which will allow free movement if it comes off the referendum vote was a complete waste of time. Edited November 21, 2022 by tatsblisters Wrong country. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,294 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: Just seen on the news the government are looking at doing a Swedish style deal with the EU which will allow free movement if it comes off Political suicide. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,451 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: Just seen on the news the government are looking at doing a Swedish style deal with the EU which will allow free movement if it comes off the referendum vote was a complete waste of time. I seen that too a couple of days ago but didn’t bother to make comment about it because I just didn’t think it was worth it…….it’s just part of why they (government and markets) are torturing the f***ing life out of people, they want us back in ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,451 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 13 hours ago, mackem said: Yup, not the best of ideas Nothing they have ever done before has been political suicide mate, why should this be any different ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,294 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, WILF said: Nothing they have ever done before has been political suicide mate, why should this be any different ? I got a feeling conservatives won't win the next election, just a hunch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,294 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Albanian migrant: 'I wish I'd never tried to enter the UK' - BBC News WWW-BBC-COM.CDN.AMPPROJECT.ORG Artan tells the BBC he spent thousands crossing the English Channel, only to be deported... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,174 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, mackem said: I got a feeling conservatives won't win the next election, just a hunch. If Starmer gets in I honestly believe we will have another referendum to rejoin the EU. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,451 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, mackem said: I got a feeling conservatives won't win the next election, just a hunch. I agree, but that only matters if Labour are any different and 70 years of proof says they ain’t…..the rosette colours are different, the politics is the same. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,294 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: If Starmer gets in I honestly believe we will have another referendum to rejoin the EU. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,375 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 It's a SWISS style agreement, not SWEDISH, which is Brexit in name only. Rejoining the single market. Freedom of movement. Accepting all laws and rules made by the EU. Accepting the EU Courts jurisdiction. Paying into the EU. Only difference is the UK wouldn't have a seat at the table, and no say in any decisions. It would be the first step to rejoining.......... Cheers. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,451 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 58 minutes ago, chartpolski said: It's a SWISS style agreement, not SWEDISH, which is Brexit in name only. Rejoining the single market. Freedom of movement. Accepting all laws and rules made by the EU. Accepting the EU Courts jurisdiction. Paying into the EU. Only difference is the UK wouldn't have a seat at the table, and no say in any decisions. It would be the first step to rejoining.......... Cheers. At the end of this little turnout people will be willing to vote for almost anything as long as they make the pain stop…..freedom, primacy of the nation state, low immigration, destruction of communities will all come way down the list compared to cheap credit, cheap mortgage rates and 2 weeks in Benidorm ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 hours ago, chartpolski said: It's a SWISS style agreement, not SWEDISH, which is Brexit in name only. Rejoining the single market. Freedom of movement. Accepting all laws and rules made by the EU. Accepting the EU Courts jurisdiction. Paying into the EU. Only difference is the UK wouldn't have a seat at the table, and no say in any decisions. It would be the first step to rejoining.......... Cheers. If you look at the EU Swiss agreement there is little of that. Free movement of goods between the EU and non EU country i.e. Switzerland, has been going on for years yet they say it can't be done regards Ireland. As regards the rest, the Swiss have their own protocols and are resisting closer intigration with the EU. Swiss abandon years of EU talks and reject treaty WWW.BBC.COM Switzerland's decision to halt efforts on reaching an over-arching treaty could harm ties with the EU. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,400 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 hours ago, WILF said: I seen that too a couple of days ago but didn’t bother to make comment about it because I just didn’t think it was worth it…….it’s just part of why they (government and markets) are torturing the f***ing life out of people, they want us back in ! If they'd thought we would vote to leave there wouldn't have been a vote on the matter. It quite simply was never meant to happen and the powers that be have been doing everything in their power to punish us ever since. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,375 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, Nicepix said: If you look at the EU Swiss agreement there is little of that. Free movement of goods between the EU and non EU country i.e. Switzerland, has been going on for years yet they say it can't be done regards Ireland. As regards the rest, the Swiss have their own protocols and are resisting closer intigration with the EU. Swiss abandon years of EU talks and reject treaty WWW.BBC.COM Switzerland's decision to halt efforts on reaching an over-arching treaty could harm ties with the EU. They have free movement of people and are part of Shengen. They also pay around £1B a year to the EU. They want every agreement to be bespoke, but the EU wants a "one size fits all", ( read "all" to mean it fits the EU ! ). You can't give up bits of your sovereignty to the EU......they want it all. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 With the Swiss backing out, Sweden seriously considering a Swexit vote and the paymasters, Germany in recession things aren't tickety boo in Brussels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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