Sausagedog 7,381 Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 49 minutes ago, foxdropper said: Beg to differ mate .Roe thrash anything that will move ,fallow like a challenge . How do you know how big the sapling is? Do you think I was born yesterday? 1 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Sausagedog said: How do you know how big the sapling is? Do you think I was born yesterday? Don’t think anything about you mate .I have eyes and years of experience of deer .Makes no odds to me whether you think it’s fallow ,roe or fairies . Roe bucks do not thrash anything stationary ,ever but fallow will push sapling over when cleaning velvet .You’ve had a fallow buck pass by at sometime ,mate . Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, foxdropper said: Don’t think anything about you mate .I have eyes and years of experience of deer .Makes no odds to me whether you think it’s fallow ,roe or fairies . Roe bucks do not thrash anything stationary ,ever but fallow will push sapling over when cleaning velvet .You’ve had a fallow buck pass by at sometime ,mate . I think you need to read up a little. As Roe Deer antlers develop they are covered in a grey furry skin known as velvet. Under the velvet there are blood vessels and nerves that feed the antler during is development. On occasions Roe Bucks damage the velvet whilst the antlers are developing which may cause abnormal non-typical antlers to form. By April Roe Deer antlers are usually fully developed, although in older animals this could be as early as March. As the hours of daylight increases it causes Roe Bucks to have an increase in testosterone which stops the blood supply to the velvet covered antlers. The velvet then dries out and shrinks, this is when Roe Bucks cause a lot of damage to forestry as they rub their antlers on saplings to assist in the removal of the velvet, this is called fraying. The antlers when clean are bright white and only get their dark colouration from the fraying activity as the sap and bark from the trees they damage colour their antlers. Mature Bucks start to mark out their territories from April onwards, this is the significant time when Roe Bucks cause damage as they franticly and aggressively rub their antlers on the bark killing lots of trees every year. The reason they fray is so they leave their scent on and around their territorial boundary, their preorbital gland found in their head deposits the warning sign to other Bucks that this is their territory and to stay away. Roe Deer Management — iQ Pest Control WWW.IQPESTCONTROL.CO.UK Roe Deer Managment https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/threads/fraying-question.187129/ 3 1 Quote Link to post
FOXHUNTER 5,021 Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, foxdropper said: Roe bucks do not thrash anything stationary They do mate , I see it all the time on young saplings and they love willow too up to an inch diameter . Unfortunately you are wrong on this occasion and it is definitely roe Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 Whatever, I have a large farm a couple of miles north east of Oxford. All the other usual suspects, but Roe, Fallow, and Muntjac, in that order. A few Hare as well, that is uncommon for me as I next to never see any in Berkshire! Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 Like I said , makes no odds to me the opinion of others .Seen fallow do that but never roe who prefer to clean on hedgerows and branches of bushes as well as any cow parsley about . Stick a trail cam on that bush and we will see mate . Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Deker said: Whatever, I have a large farm a couple of miles north east of Oxford. All the other usual suspects, but Roe, Fallow, and Muntjac, in that order. A few Hare as well, that is uncommon for me as I next to never see any in Berkshire! Where I was was overrun with them .Mate is going to have a clear up . Quote Link to post
Stavross 15,062 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 ALL WRONG that is clearly the work of a jackalope anyone in the know will tell you this jesus, what am I working with here 3 Quote Link to post
FOXHUNTER 5,021 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, foxdropper said: but never roe who prefer to clean on hedgerows and branches of bushes You are wrong Tim ,why do you think roe are the foresters enemy? You only have field roe where you are and that is why you mostly see them thrashing hedgerows but if you look carefully you will find saplings frayed Here you go ...this is what I find all the time. 1 Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, FOXHUNTER said: You are wrong Tim ,why do you think roe are the foresters enemy? You only have field roe where you are and that is why you mostly see them thrashing hedgerows but if you look carefully you will find saplings frayed Here you go ...this is what I find all the time. Obviously Photoshop!!!! 4 Quote Link to post
ianm 2,594 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 19 hours ago, FOXHUNTER said: Yep another reason to whack em as they will attract unwanted attention from the dog men It wasn't dog lads i was thinking about. 1 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 I thought I better get up this morning and go look for a rogue fallow buck! Nope, none, no slots, no rubs and no poop. 5 Quote Link to post
FOXHUNTER 5,021 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sausagedog said: I thought I better get up this morning and go look for a rogue fallow buck! Nope, none, no slots, no rubs and no poop. No jackalope either 1 Quote Link to post
Sausagedog 7,381 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, FOXHUNTER said: No jackalope either Just plenty of their cousins. Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 Your in the wrong field SD , ffs there’s no saplings in that one 4 Quote Link to post
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