What job.

[chartpolski 23,147]

20 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Brilliant post ive been saying the same for ages.....third world countries NEED educated,talented,qualified individuals.....i dont have any issues with us educating and getting them qualified its what successful nations should do to help.....but to them take them out of the countries we should be educating them in order to help is totally wrong.....you could even say its cruel.......one thing it does show again though is just how little pride these people have in their own nations.

I agree with both your and Dido's posts, but I fear my origional post has been somewhat misrepresented.

Japan and Australia aren't developing countries, and there is reciprocal flow of professionals that benefit both of them and the UK

Im not sure if India can still be considered a developing country; it is a nuclear power, has a space programme, and recently overtook the U.K. to become the 5th largest economy in the world.

As for the Phillipines, I have a god daughter who's mother is Fillipina and worked as a nurse in the Middle East and sent every peso she could back to the Phillipines to put her daughter through university to train as a dentist, and now has a dental practice in Manilla.

I worked with a Filipino lad who did the same, putting his son through commercial flight school and is now a pilot with Phillipine Airlines. 

So, by them going to work abroad, has in the long run benefited their country.

Agian, I agree with with your and Dido's opinion on taking developing countries best people to the detriment of their native countries.....but that's not what I said or inferred

Cheers.

[mackem 26,227]

2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

As for the Phillipines, I have a god daughter who's mother is Fillipina and worked as a nurse in the Middle East and sent every peso she could back to the Phillipines to put her daughter through university to train as a dentist, and now has a dental practice in Manilla.

I worked with a Filipino lad who did the same, putting his son through commercial flight school and is now a pilot with Phillipine Airlines. 

So, by them going to work abroad, has in the long run benefited their country.

Pinoys educate their kids specifically so the kids can get out of the Philippines and remit money back to the PI, it's why there used to be so many filipino owned remittance agents around earls Court (the filipino area of London).Also nursing is one of the top uni courses in the PI, because its the golden-ticket out, in fact so many filipinas were leaving the country the government put a 5000 a year limit on those allowed out through the POEA, as no nurses actually wanted to work in their own country, they wanted out,the great escape. 

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3 minutes ago, mackem said:

Pinoys educate their kids specifically so the kids can get out of the Philippines and remit money back to the PI, it's why there used to be so many filipino owned remittance agents around earls Court (the filipino area of London).Also nursing is one of the top uni courses in the PI, because its the golden-ticket out, in fact so many filipinas were leaving the country the government put a 5000 a year limit on those allowed out through the POEA, as no nurses actually wanted to work in their own country, they wanted out,the great escape. 

I know mate. Same with Irish nurses. I was in hospital a couple of times in the Middle East, and it was invariably Fillipina or Irish nurses, and very professional they were. 

My doctor, dentist and vet were all British !

Cheers.

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14 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I know mate. Same with Irish nurses. I was in hospital a couple of times in the Middle East, and it was invariably Fillipina or Irish nurses, and very professional they were. 

My doctor, dentist and vet were all British !

Cheers.

Filipinas in the middle east are contracted on a lower salary than western nurses, a lot now head for Canada, I know some on 100+k CAD a year, my mate is an engineer in Toronto, he has a fantastic life, I asked him would he ever go back to the Philippines, he laughed and said "Only if they drag me back"

[mushroom 12,871]

Every Dr I’ve seen here has been either Spanish, Portuguese or French. I’ve had 18 year old Spanish trainees looking at my arsehole, cock and every other part of me, all while the actual Dr is explaining, teaching and training their next generation of health professionals. I don’t mind being the pin cushion if it helps them keep it in the family. 
 

I’ve said it before, we need to train our own and build upon that! Bullshit ideologies from the left wing/socialists have prevented that for the last 25 years. Let’s import them etc. fuuck rightoff! Train your own and hand them the reigns  

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1 minute ago, mackem said:

Filipinas in the middle east are contracted on a lower salary than western nurses, a lot now head for Canada, I know some on 100+k CAD a year, my mate is an engineer in Toronto, he has a fantastic life, I asked him would he ever go back to the Philippines, he laughed and said "Only if they drag me back"

Phillipino's in the Middle East, who I worked with, were on less than half of what westerners were on, but still ten times what the would get at home.

It was all supposedly based on "cost of living"; the yanks got more than us, we got more than anyone else.

The Philipinos I worked with all had big houses, maids, children in private education back home, but they were the exception, highly skilled and educated. The maids and labourers where not a lot better off, but they were desperate to come.

Cheers.

[mackem 26,227]

5 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Phillipino's in the Middle East, who I worked with, were on less than half of what westerners were on, but still ten times what the would get at home.

It was all supposedly based on "cost of living"; the yanks got more than us, we got more than anyone else.

The Philipinos I worked with all had big houses, maids, children in private education back home, but they were the exception, highly skilled and educated. The maids and labourers where not a lot better off, but they were desperate to come.

Cheers.

I used to work in the Philippines,I know a lot of Pinoys spread all over the world desperate to escape the corruption and poverty back there, the nurses were getting, believe it or not eighty pence hazard pay extra a month, yup, you read that right, a month, for working in covid wards. 

Edited September 9, 2022 by mackem

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I got in a lift at the Freeman hospital in Newcastle with two Fillipina nurses who were chatting away in Tagalog, I joined in with their conversation using my extremely limited tagalish, they were amazed that someone would talk to them in their own, admittedly butchered language, and I'm sure my "kumusta, mabuti, etc got me some preferential treatment !

Cheers.

[mackem 26,227]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

 tagalish, 

AKA bamboo English

[mackem 26,227]

3 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

and I'm sure my "kumusta, mabuti, etc got me some preferential treatment ! 

As a 19 year old kid in Manila dali na sa katre eyot na ta also got me preferential treatment

[chartpolski 23,147]

2 minutes ago, mackem said:

AKA bamboo English

I guess it's slightly better than pointing and shouting slowly in English !

Cheers.

[mackem 26,227]

5 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I guess it's slightly better than pointing and shouting slowly in English !

Cheers.

Tagalish is officially recognised, your watching ABS/CBN and they chat away in a mix of Tagalog and English, when you first hear it it's like What?? Then you realise an fusion of the two is far more descriptive for them. 

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38 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I been reading few of these job sites the last week or so, just out a noseyness, an it ain’t hard to see why foreigners want to and are able to work here, cos there millions a jobs all over country, millions a unemployed but nobody wants to do the jobs, before we teach kids anything we need to get them off there arses

Just out of curiosity how many of these jobs are through employment agencies. 

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3 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

Just out of curiosity how many of these jobs are through employment agencies. 

Agencies abroad are responsible for most I would guess, removes the burden of direct hire from the UK employer. 

[gnasher16 30,027]

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

I agree with both your and Dido's posts, but I fear my origional post has been somewhat misrepresented.

Japan and Australia aren't developing countries, and there is reciprocal flow of professionals that benefit both of them and the UK

Im not sure if India can still be considered a developing country; it is a nuclear power, has a space programme, and recently overtook the U.K. to become the 5th largest economy in the world.

As for the Phillipines, I have a god daughter who's mother is Fillipina and worked as a nurse in the Middle East and sent every peso she could back to the Phillipines to put her daughter through university to train as a dentist, and now has a dental practice in Manilla.

I worked with a Filipino lad who did the same, putting his son through commercial flight school and is now a pilot with Phillipine Airlines. 

So, by them going to work abroad, has in the long run benefited their country.

Agian, I agree with with your and Dido's opinion on taking developing countries best people to the detriment of their native countries.....but that's not what I said or inferred

Cheers.

To be honest mate i havent a clue what you said or inferred i was only replying to Dido's post id not looked back beyond that.....but no,i dont disagree,on a small scale individual level like that people can only do what they can do and help their own thats as it should be......but im talking about your surgeons,engineers,skills that will make a difference in desperate countries....its wrong for us to keep them here and its wrong they dont have the pride to walk away from the successful nations they qualified in......dont they call it " The Brain Drain " or something....

I quite admire lads like Didier Drogba and the Liverpool lad i forget his name now.....marvellous ambassadors for their countries using their financial abilities to make change.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2022 by gnasher16