how soon after gassing it safe to ferret

[Guest bigredbusa]

as above , ive been asked to go finish off the rabbits and im not sure how they where gassed ie: cymag tabs / gas

 

how long should it be left before i can stick the ferts down again , ive always been careful and stay well away for a while but the woman wants me saturday ... ayi

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Cymag's long since illegal, mate. Probably Phostoxin been used. Frankly, I'd tell " The woman " she can " F*ck Off! ". There's no antidote for that shit. I certainly wouldn't be putting my ferrets down anywhere that had been gassed with it anything like recently.

 

Maybe some of the lads on here experienced in its use (and Talunex) can give ye a more definative answer? Hate it, myself.

[Guest bigredbusa]

mmmm i said i would only do her neighbour ( so to speak lol ) , i didnt realise cymag wasnt used anymore

[theobenmike 0]

I have a mate who used to use phostoxin for the forestry commision on rabbits. He only used it in dry weather as when it was wet it started to dissolve and would smell like garlic. So I would think it depends on how wet the ground is as to how fast the pellets dissolve and turn into gas and as for how long the gas "stays active" I haven't got a clue.

 

Personally I'd give it a miss

[richie 1]

i done a course with killgerm for safe handling & use of phostoxin..

 

killgerm & rentokil recommend:

 

children, domestic & farm animals should be kept away from the treated area for at least 2 days to prevent any possibility of the tablets being dug up whilst they are active.

 

obviously decomposing time depends on different temperatures.

 

personally if im ever asked to use the gassing method it would only be a last resort & no other option left, & i wouldnt be using it near any residential areas !. all i takes is for a rabbit to dig its way back in or out if it gets the chance, bit of wind blowing the escaping fumes to their neighbours home.

 

in my view, it should only be used on farm land, away from foot paths & live stock.

 

i would wait at least a couple of weeks before i ferreted it....

 

if youre unsure, give KILLGERM a call. 01924 268 400.

 

hope this helps.

[Guest bigredbusa]

you sure that numbers right? just tried giving them a bell and just makes a weird noise

[richie 1]

you sure that numbers right? just tried giving them a bell and just makes a weird noise

 

there you go...

 

http://www.killgerm.com/contact.php?PHPSES...7a3e2263dc0a2ab

[Rolfe 2]

Phostoxin and Talunex both contain aluminium phosphide which liberates highly toxic phosphine gas when moisture activated. At least 48 hours is needed for the gas to disperse, but i would leave it considerably longer than that before attempting to ferret any treated buries. I personally would not consider entering ferrets for at least two weeks after a treatment.

 

hope this has been of some help.

 

Rolfe.

[R_Oldroyd 17]

Hi all,

 

Aluminium phosphide becomes inert in a relitavely short period of time. I would say that the gas would be over and done with within 24 to 48 hours depending on how porous the soil is. Thats not to say that i would put my ferrets down that soon just to be on the safe side.

 

Just as a casing point if the holes have been gassed there should be no holes open to put your ferrets down anyway.

 

Have to say I don't use gas at this time of year if I can help it. I wait till there is better weather when it is not so wet.

 

Regards Roger.

 

P.S you have to remember also that the tablets will leave a powder residue in the holes, so if this get on the coat of the ferret and it groomes itself or other ferrets you never know. Longterm many of the chemicals used in pest control can be hazardous to health. Bendiocarb springs to mind.

Edited January 24, 2008 by R_Oldroyd

[richie 1]

so far we all have the same opinion, wait a few weeks before working it, even if the manufacturers say 48 hours.

 

you wouldnt get any of the sales reps putting their head down a recently opened entrance to a bury 2 days after it has been gassed taking a big breath , they probably wouldnt do it after a week or so..

 

i would expect the same for my ferrets..

 

bigredbusa when was it gassed ? did you ask her ?

[Guest bigredbusa]

i think she said a week ago but will find out for sure when i get down there . very helpful guys thank you

[R_Oldroyd 17]

I have just finished a job in some woodland many of the rabbits caught where in wood piles and 8 came of of a bomfire, I guess what i am trying to say is there are place or sets that can be done with ferrets where you can't gas. Don't blow the women out. Go and have a look. Look for sets where you can't gas for example near water courses, rubbish tips, building. Fallen tree stumps. Just check with her where and when it was gassed.

 

I bet there will be areas you can ferret safely.

 

regatds Roger.

Edited January 24, 2008 by R_Oldroyd

[Guest bigredbusa]

im still going , im just going to be careful where i stick em (should of done that with the missus 4 months ago) lol

 

i remember a farmer who used to throw big cymag tablets down the holes and they could stay there for some time hence the original question.

 

once again some helpful advice , thanks all