A taste of their own medicine me thinks

[Ferretman65 2,177]

11 hours ago, sandymere said:

Not so different,  same species of hare, pick Irish or Scottish from the photos . I can't and I found them .

 

Saying they've a different species is just splitting hares............

Sandy you just don't have a glue mate do you why don't you bring your dogs over and run a couple  

[TOMO 26,038]

39 minutes ago, terryd said:

Regardless shouldn't they be allowed to do there thing ?  It dont sound ideal but sure there is worse things out and it will be just another chip off the block 

I agree mate..

[Ferretman65 2,177]

11 hours ago, mC HULL said:

looks more like a rabbit sandy you dropped one on big open ground it be killed like a dropper aswell  

the irish don’t realise what would happen if they tried running a strong brown hare with there speed machines they’d be straight to the nearest village for the difibrilator  

Mchull I have run brown hares and my Dogs killed them too fs lads do u think there's no dogs here can kill hares use two boys live in Dream world now iam finish with this now not even going to answer back  

[chartpolski 23,147]

Why try to compare different types of hare ?

Different animals, different ground, different style.

Ive ran brown hare, white hare and I've ran hares in Ireland, but to be fair, they were probably brown hares, not Irish hares.

One thing is sure, I enjoyed running all of them, wether it be on the Northumberland fells, the Cairngorm heather or the Irish paddocks

Cheers.

[jigsaw 11,863]

I'm no expert,I've caught a lot of hares with old sonic and a few others before him,and what makes the difference I expect is the land,and the obstacles...at times you may not see the outcome of the course until the dog meanders up the field with the catch in it's mouth,and coming from a completely different direction as to where you expected him to have been,all the stupid illogical and at times insulting comments show pure ignorance on the subject,

I don't get worked up over that,it's farcical at times,if you have a dog that can catch the Irish hare consistently,then you have a decent dog,end of story

[fred90 3,204]

1 hour ago, TOMO said:

I agree mate..

surprised you haven't run the mountain one's tomo, lots of lads from our neck of the woods used to in the 80s. 

[TOMO 26,038]

7 minutes ago, fred90 said:

surprised you haven't run the mountain one's tomo, lots of lads from our neck of the woods used to in the 80s. 

I know mate....there not that far from me either ...although I'm led to believe it's a bit warm up there....

I should really get one of these whippety curs on a few in the next few years

[fred90 3,204]

1 minute ago, TOMO said:

I know mate....there not that far from me either ...although I'm led to believe it's a bit warm up there....

I should really get one of these whippety curs on a few in the next few years

it's certainly red hot there now mate, I would have to say that particular bit of sport is finished

[stop.end 4,079]

1 hour ago, jigsaw said:

I'm no expert,I've caught a lot of hares with old sonic and a few others before him,and what makes the difference I expect is the land,and the obstacles...at times you may not see the outcome of the course until the dog meanders up the field with the catch in it's mouth,and coming from a completely different direction as to where you expected him to have been,all the stupid illogical and at times insulting comments show pure ignorance on the subject,

I don't get worked up over that,it's farcical at times,if you have a dog that can catch the Irish hare consistently,then you have a decent dog,end of story

The only real and sensible reply on this whole topic... And boys think the visit one place in Ireland and coursed a few hares the whole country is the same... Joke.

[terryd 8,384]

little fatty beagle catch one lol

[Moocher71 4,049]

21 hours ago, sandymere said:

So are you saying I'm wrong? A caged hare is a test or a Irish hare is equivalent to a brown hare? If so sorry mate but no they're not.

As to comparison of Irish to mountain,  you said it yourself, subspecies, not seperate species ie they are lupus timidus

Mountain hare - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

Brpwn hare is a different species 

European hare - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

 

So sorry  mate its not me that's being a bollock of the highest order,,

I've found that people who disagree with good reason put that reason up as a counter argument whereas people who argue without good reason  resort to personal attacks as they have nothing  else. Always a bit sad to see.

 

 

That pic of Irish hare looks more like a rabbit and you can see the brown hare a bigger stronger animal made for speed 

[sandymere 8,263]

6 hours ago, TOMO said:

I've re read this thread....

you keep using the term "caged"..hare...the Irish lads have told you they are kept in pens and schooled on the ground...they are transported in boxes...it's this that is referenced in the original report ..

with you putting up vids of park coursing in Spain I wrongly assumed you were in favour of this sport....so please forgive me....but you can see how one would think you were a fan..

Irish hare..mountain hare...

I've ran neither so can't comment..have you ran either or both...

your posts read like you are being derogatory towards the Irish hare...hence the Irish lads having a pop at you...

the Irish lads are telling you that it's a good test of a dog..I do know lads from England that have run them that have said they are a good test and completely different to the mountain hare...

after all is said and done I do agree with you with regards to park coursing not being our thing..I think its a poor sport to be honest..and like jiggys original post highlights...it seems is being run in a shoddy maner ...and is doing f**k all good for field sports in general

Not knocking anyone just the idea of a hare run from a box, the stress of capture moving etc is going to have an effect. I've used a bagged rabbit to start a pup as a lad but never since.

As to comparing hares, I recon any hare given fair law on its own ground is a test for a dog and that running them regular would be good prep for running brown hares. The Irish may well be as hard to take as a brown on their own ground but, on an open grass field without the natural lay of the land to use to their own advantage, ditches, hedges, etc then I recon you get the best possible to make it a match.

Re original post, as ever we are our own worst enemies, handing the antis the bullets to shoot ourselves with.

[Black neck 15,864]

5 hours ago, chartpolski said:

Why try to compare different types of hare ?

Different animals, different ground, different style.

Ive ran brown hare, white hare and I've ran hares in Ireland, but to be fair, they were probably brown hares, not Irish hares.

One thing is sure, I enjoyed running all of them, wether it be on the Northumberland fells, the Cairngorm heather or the Irish paddocks

Cheers.

What about the infamous slops of Hull 

[mC HULL 12,225]

4 hours ago, Black neck said:

What about the infamous slops of Hull 

some spots this way blacky takes a dog with everything to stop em 

luckys owner had some great dogs were did he say the best hares are ? here and a spot 30 mins away i can run the best a hares within an hour journey 

[scotty12 1,888]

18 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

some spots this way blacky takes a dog with everything to stop em 

luckys owner had some great dogs were did he say the best hares are ? here and a spot 30 mins away i can run the best a hares within an hour journey 

Wasn’t his dog  Kim Irish blood