A taste of their own medicine me thinks

[jigsaw 11,863]

Club loses coursing license after report from conservation ranger

A damning report on activities at a hare coursing club in Galway details hares being left in boxes alongside dead hares and left in “shock” before being euthanised.

The report also revealed poor practices by vets in attendance, one of whom left the animals in boxes to watch his own dog run.

The sport involves muzzled greyhounds chasing hares in an open field for competition.

The report from a conservation ranger to the National Parks and Wildlife Service preceded the club’s license being revoked last October and has not been granted a new one for the coming season. It details how three hares died at the club’s annual fixture.

After four hares had been “violently pinned” by dogs and some were “held through the muzzle”, they were placed in holding boxes.

A vet monitoring the event left live hares alongside dead hares while he left to watch his own dog run and returned almost an hour later. License conditions state that vets “must be available at all times” to look after the wellbeing of the hares even when involved in active coursing.

The vet later returned to check on the hares and found two of them were dead, and one appeared healthy. The conservation ranger said this about the fourth hare:

“The hare steward partially pulled [the hare] out of the box. 

The hare was screaming. The vet had a syringe in his hand and I asked him what he was doing. 

"He said he was going to put it to sleep. I asked why and if it was injured. He said it was in shock and would not recover. He euthanised the hare.” 

A veterinary report form differs from the conservation rangers report which said two hares “apparently died of their injuries” and said that the two deceased hares were euthanised.

During the event, which initially had two vets present, one returned to Belfast and another briefly went to his private practice leaving the club in breach of the license condition to have a vet present at all times.

The Irish Coursing Club said in an email to the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage that the final two days of the event were cancelled “in the interest of hare welfare” as “six hares were pinned during day one and that the hares did not exhibit a satisfactory performance”. 

The council also said hares which were pinned by dogs received injuries and sanctions including a fine were being considered.

Darragh O'Brien suspended their license that evening pending an investigation.

The minister told the Dáil in March that the club “were found to be in breach of a number of conditions of the Section 34 licence to capture live hares”. He said its license was “immediately suspended for the rest of the coursing season” and “any sanctions to be taken against that Club will be considered as part of any new licence application”.

The Irish Coursing Club (ICC) told the Irish Examiner that Loughrea Coursing Club applied for a netting and tagging license for the coming season but were not granted one.

Aideen Yourell, campaign director with the Irish Council Against Blood Sports, who obtained the documents through FOI, said this “shameful barbarism” should be banned in Ireland. A bill is currently before Dáil Éireann which would ban the practice in Ireland.

Hare coursing is illegal in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and 77% of Irish citizens want a ban on the sport, according to a Red C poll taken in September 2019. There was little difference between the preferences of people living in urban and rural areas. An ICC spokesman said: 

Loughrea CC are considering the Minister’s sanction at this time and are therefore not in a position to comment further.

The ICC said it “promotes full compliance among all clubs” concerning license conditions and “does not condone any clubs that fall short of the required standard”.

“The ICC works with all clubs to ensure the highest standards are followed, practised and enforced, and offers support when required,” the spokesman said. 

“In the 2021/22 coursing season, 99.51% of hares netted were released back to the countryside, demonstrating the high standard across the cohort of 

[jigsaw 11,863]

These clubs are the ones trying to accuse us of being cruel,bunch of hypocrites 

[sandymere 8,263]

Each to their own but a caged hare, let alone a caged Irish hare, (which is  a mountain hare that doesn't turn white), isn't going to be much of a test.

[Ferretman65 2,177]

2 hours ago, sandymere said:

Each to their own but a caged hare, let alone a caged Irish hare, (which is  a mountain hare that doesn't turn white), isn't going to be much of a test.

Why is that can the Irish hare not run fast enough funny you saying that brown hares run 45 mph and the Irish hares run 45mph some off the best greyhounds in the UK run the Irish hares in coursing meeting over here as you say each to there own 

[sandymere 8,263]

A caged hare??? 

Does a mountain hare compare to a brown hare when coursed?

[chartpolski 23,147]

I know I qgoing to get shit from some sides,  but park coursing is completely different from normal coursing.

Its not something I support.....captive hares ran by greyhounds in muzzles isn't my idea of sport.

Sorry, but that's just the opinion of a man who's ran hares for over 55 years on their own ground, given fair law

Cheers.

[Ferretman65 2,177]

1 minute ago, sandymere said:

A caged hare??? 

Does a mountain hare compare to a brown hare when coursed?

There not caged they keep them in big pens plenty off room for them and they are school were to run and they get a good fair head start don't they 

[Ferretman65 2,177]

4 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I know I qgoing to get shit from some sides,  but park coursing is completely different from normal coursing.

Its not something I support.....captive hares ran by greyhounds in muzzles isn't my idea of sport.

Sorry, but that's just the opinion of a man who's ran hares for over 55 years on their own ground, given fair law

Cheers.

I hunted hares most of my life don't hunt them now not many about here I wouldn't off given them a inch but as you say each to there own why would you give something a head start when you're trying to kill it each to there own a hare is only a big rabbit to me and I wouldn't give a rabbit fair law 

[chartpolski 23,147]

Just now, Ferretman65 said:

I hunted hares most of my life don't hunt them now not many about here I wouldn't off given them a inch but as you say each to there own why would you give something a head start when you're trying to kill it each to there own a hare is only a big rabbit to me and I wouldn't give a rabbit fair law 

I've said many times on here over the years that if I want one for the pot, I don't care if it's taken out of the seat or a kick up, but if I'm out for sport, or to test a dog, the hare gets fair law, and if it puts up a good show and gets away...well done.

My comment was about captive hares, run in enclosed spaces, by greyhounds in muzzles.

As I said, not my idea of sport.

Cheers.

[dogmandont 9,802]

22 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I know I qgoing to get shit from some sides,  but park coursing is completely different from normal coursing.

Its not something I support.....captive hares ran by greyhounds in muzzles isn't my idea of sport.

Sorry, but that's just the opinion of a man who's ran hares for over 55 years on their own ground, given fair law

Cheers.

Been to a few park coursing meets over the years  and I'd have to agree with you. 

[Ferretman65 2,177]

27 minutes ago, Wideboy said:

You are a f***ing bollix to the highest order. They are totally different sub species. Just like your needle nosed hounds that’ll never be tested. Don’t try and say your out testing them, running across the beach is the height of it I’d say. I used to think you knew what you were on about, you don’t have a clue. 

I tryed telling them boys before the Irish hare is only found in Ireland they don't listen they have the blue hare or is it the alpine hare which is a lot smaller again like a big rabbit and the brown hares 

[Black neck 15,863]

4 hours ago, Ferretman65 said:

I tryed telling them boys before the Irish hare is only found in Ireland they don't listen they have the blue hare or is it the alpine hare which is a lot smaller again like a big rabbit and the brown hares 

Utter twaddle

[Ferretman65 2,177]

2 hours ago, Black neck said:

Utter twaddle

Watts you on about utter twaddle you go back to making silly jokes or il call the guards  

[Ferretman65 2,177]

9 hours ago, chartpolski said:

I've said many times on here over the years that if I want one for the pot, I don't care if it's taken out of the seat or a kick up, but if I'm out for sport, or to test a dog, the hare gets fair law, and if it puts up a good show and gets away...well done.

My comment was about captive hares, run in enclosed spaces, by greyhounds in muzzles.

As I said, not my idea of sport.

Cheers.

But the greyhounds Lads have a right to there way too they don't want to put muzzles on the dogs it's law makes them do it as you say each to there own all the best  

[Moocher71 4,049]

Never liked this type of sport ,to me I run a dog to catch something qs quick and easy as possible and to cage a hare is cruel at least I think so