who will be the next pm ?

[DIDO.1 22,844]

Being part of a system that values eternal economic growth as a measure of a successful country is the reason we are in such a mess. 

 

[Born Hunter 17,776]

1 minute ago, DIDO.1 said:

Being part of a system that values eternal economic growth as a measure of a successful country is the reason we are in such a mess. 

 

So here's the thing about economic growth, there's two ways of achieving it. First way is the easy way, you want to produce more widgets then you just increase the number of people making widgets = growth!

Also = economic growth dependant on population growth = no per capita growth and is fundamentally unsustainable.

The second way is fund R&D to optimise production and innovate better more desirable products = growth!

We don't have to give up market economics, we just have to approach it sustainably. Places like India and China have to lean on the first way as their resource is bodies. We don't! We shouldn't! As a nation we are innovators and often on a shoe string budget.

[DIDO.1 22,844]

45 minutes ago, JBs Left Peg said:

It’s always profit before people when what any gov should be striving for is to give its people a good standard of living as cheaply as possible ie

Nationalise

Gas

Leccy

Power Stations

Rail

Public Transport

and only charge British citizens what ever it costs to service these industries and keep them updated but with zero profit.

It should be people first not greedy politicians and corporations fleecing us.

If what’s happening this last couple years re Covid and at present re fuel and gas leccy ect don’t make people think on we well fooked .

As much as I like the idea of nationalised for the benifit of the people principal.....in reality it would never work due to the people running the nationalised service have proved themselves time after time to have no interest in the good of the indigenous people.

Look at the NHS.....it's an unsustainable money pit. Would you let the same people run our energy or rail service? 

[mackem 26,809]

5 hours ago, sandymere said:

Another in a line of ineptitude as we slip into being a third world country.

If you had ever lived in a third world country you would know we are a million light years away from that Sandy. 

[Bosun11 537]

[Cunningstunt 9]

12 minutes ago, Bosun11 said:

Better than rishi

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

What was the spin off from UKIP called? .Don’t hear anything about them now .

[WILF 47,215]

4 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

What was the spin off from UKIP called? .Don’t hear anything about them now .

English Democrats I believe 

[chartpolski 23,956]

12 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

What was the spin off from UKIP called? .Don’t hear anything about them now .

The Brexit Party, then Reform Party.

Cheers.

[bob.243 8,888]

[low plains drifter 10,617]

5 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

So here's the thing about economic growth, there's two ways of achieving it. First way is the easy way, you want to produce more widgets then you just increase the number of people making widgets = growth!

Also = economic growth dependant on population growth = no per capita growth and is fundamentally unsustainable.

The second way is fund R&D to optimise production and innovate better more desirable products = growth!

We don't have to give up market economics, we just have to approach it sustainably. Places like India and China have to lean on the first way as their resource is bodies. We don't! We shouldn't! As a nation we are innovators and often on a shoe string budget.

 

[Ken's Deputy 4,460]

7 minutes ago, JBs Left Peg said:

Its about time folk called for ...

What, like they should give us a referendum; See how That goes?

[WILF 47,215]

5 minutes ago, JBs Left Peg said:

What’s up you getting your slice of FA lol

A Petition of over 100k signatures used to be the benchmark for debating the said subject .

That would be a start .

Personaly do you think GB should be handing over foreign aid the state we are currently in ?

We should have gunboats and fighter jets patrolling the channel and turning these f***ing parasites into fish food 

[Gypsydog94 4,607]

New cabinet looks like we are being ruled by the 3rd world! 

[Ken's Deputy 4,460]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

We should have gunboats and ...

Those old 'Pill Box' emplacements ever piqued your interest, Wilf? (Bear with me )

I actually have quite a select little shelf of books here, about such matters. One is a book by David Lampe. " The Last Ditch ". It's all about, basically, the plans we had for when the nazi's hit our shorelines.

One thing that stands out ~ I don't remember now if it was actual, or just a propaganda rumour we started. I think there might even have been said to have been a kernel of truth in it. But, that it's ever been officially hushed up.

Thing is; We were said to have got a pipeline out. Forget where it was now. Kent? Anyway, hell of a good place for a landing.

And, the idea was, they'd pump oil through this pipeline, as the landing crafts appeared. And torch the fukking lot!

It's a brilliant read, the verbatim of the radio broadcast we put out to them! " Oh! Look, Hans! The sea is burning! I am burning! The Oberstleutnant is doing rather nicely as well! "

I'm sat here, LMFAO even as I type that last bit! Fukking Legend!

I'd love to ask your Jordan Peterson where the fukking hell's the logic in where we're at now! I'm Yet to hear, or figure out, a working response, frankly