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IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF EARTH THAT YOU ARE WORKING .IF YOU ARE ONLY WORKING LITTLE SHALLOW EARTHS THEN A BARKING DOG IS ALL YOU NEED. BUT IF YOU ARE WORKING SOME DEEP PLACES SPOTS WHERE YOU CAN,T HEAR YOUR TERRIER OR BIG PLACES WHERE THE SOIL CAN HIDE THE SOUND OF YOUR BARKING DOG THEN I WOULD ALLWAY USE A LOCATOR. I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ROOTS BUT I DID ONCE GET A DOG STUCK ON SOME STEEL UNDER SOME CONCREAT THAT I WAS TRYING TO BOLT A FOX OUT OF. MY FAULT I SHOULD HAVE REMOVED HIS COLLER LUCKY IT SNAPPED.

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id never purposley enter a dog to earth without a coller ......

dont understand people who do it and well when the shit hits the fan at least you know where its happening .......

ALWAYS use a coller....its safer

once went to a earth that we had dug many times (always at four foot or under )dog in ,dog on, dug dog at 9 feet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

id have put my mortgage on it never aproaching that depth ...........

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS .............coller yer dog up !

yis fellman

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Each to their own mate, but I wouldn't put a dog to ground without one,

 

How do you hear a barking dog 12 feet deep in solid clay, or in rocks where you can never really tell where the barking is coming from.

 

What is the tally in your country for terriers lost to ground ?

I would expect it to be very high.

 

I now use a Pieps system marketed by Bellman and Flint and in all honesty its what most lads have been wanting for years.

 

Yis

Dillon

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Well, i put a young bitch into a nicde little earth a while back. only 2 foot deep but it is a foot of compressed rubble and tarmac and the rest is clay. the wind was blowing like hell and it was a good morning to be out. even with my ear to the ground, and at only 2 foot!, i could not hear a thing due to the wind.... we had a successful conclusion nearly an hour after entry, but had we not got a collar on the dog then i think she woudl have either come away in the end or we would have not found her until the weather calmed. If the collar is "snagged" on a root (and i have never seen that happen) then you can easily dig it out....personally, a collar is part of being a responsable terrier owner.....JMHO>...

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Even here in Italy no one use locators simply because most hunter dont even know there are locators.Underground hunting is not very common here and most of italian terrierman come from small village and hunt like their ancestors did,quarry must bolt or be taken out by the terrier and if one dog is not enough they will put 2 or 3. most of them will not take a spade or a pickaxe when out hunting.I dont need to say that lot of dogs are lost to ground :( Here where I live most earths are undiggable so a locator would be of little use.

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