Collie cross Whippet

[shaaark 10,947]

57 minutes ago, Neal said:

These are three from the litter. The first was my bitch, the second was the chunkier male and the black and white bitch was the only non-merle in the litter. Hopefully this gives you some kind of idea of variety, but don't forget that all collies are different and so all their offspring won't necessarily be the same.

Nice types, those three. 

And, dare I say it, but yours and the black bitch also look a tad bully.  Very nice though. 

Edited June 18, 2022 by shaaark

[Neal 1,874]

38 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Nice types, those three. 

And, dare I say it, but yours and the black bitch also look a tad bully.  Very nice though. 

That'll be those squinty blue eyes. She definitely wasn't bully in character.

[OldPhil 5,826]

On 17/06/2022 at 12:59, tomfromwest said:

This must be very variable but generaly speaking what is the temperament of the above pairing. I mean straight cross. Are they more like the Whippet or Collie in temperament. 

I've tried this First Cross, Whippet/Collie lurcher on several occasions...

Temperament has nothing to do with the concept of such a hybridisation, but more so with the mind-set, of the individuals used...

You get bold Collies and bold whippets,.. and also, the complete opposite, so as I always say, Temperament is King.

Many of the examples that folk term Collie/Whippets, are anything but,.. Collie/Whippets...

Personally, I've never favoured the F1 hybrid, and instead, I prefer to use a wee bit of Whippet/Greyhound blood,...the resulting pups are still whippet-like in appearance, but seem to hold up better, when worked in heavy brash and woodland... I've also experience F1 hybrids that have heavily favoured the Collie and the progeny of such a union has sometimes turned out a bit coarse and lacking in that famous whippet speed. Easy enough to train to work around the warren , and although rarely on a par with a canny working collie,.. whippets sure ain't dumb, and are easily schooled...

On the face of it, for the rabbiting man with a penchant for ferreting and hedgerow mouching, the collie x whippet would seem to be the idea, perfect cross for the job...

 Curiously enough, this type of lurcher is not all that common....

 

Edited July 7, 2022 by OldPhil

[shaaark 10,947]

2 hours ago, Neal said:

That'll be those squinty blue eyes. She definitely wasn't bully in character.

Lol not just the squinty eyes lol, but the basic 'type'.

But like I said, very nice.

[shaaark 10,947]

27 minutes ago, OldPhil said:

 

 

Many of the examples that folk term Collie/Whippets, are anything but,..

Similar thing I've found, when some people have said to me 'he/she's a 'bull cross'.

On further enquiry, said dog or bitch, is a collie/grey x deer/bull/grey x saluki/bull/grey x whippet/collie/grey, or similar!!

Certainly ISN'T a bull cross.

[shaaark 10,947]

@oldPhil

 

By the way, is that particular bitch one of your whippet/cattle dog crosses, very very nice?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TelephonePete 111]

All very interesting. This is my first Collie and perhaps my last Dog. I find the Collie fascinating after a lifetime with the German Shepherds. Many GSD"s but only two absolute top quality Dogs (temperament). I wish I had come to collies earlier but not so. I have been very interested in lurchers all this time and the care that goes into their breeding compared with the rubbish principles adopted by the pedigree fraternity. Some time ago I travelled from Cornnwall to just north of Glasgow for a Plummer Terrier. Whilst there they told me that they took a lot of Plummers stock around the time when he was finishing. They also said that the only Lurcher he was interested in was Collie/Greyhound do you know if this is so. They also said that they were breeding from Plummer lurcher stock. 

[TelephonePete 111]

All very interesting. This is my first Collie and perhaps my last Dog. I find the Collie fascinating after a lifetime with the German Shepherds. Many GSD"s but only two absolute top quality Dogs (temperament). I wish I had come to collies earlier but not so. I have been very interested in lurchers all this time and the care that goes into their breeding compared with the rubbish principles adopted by the pedigree fraternity. Some time ago I travelled from Cornnwall to just north of Glasgow for a Plummer Terrier. Whilst there they told me that they took a lot of Plummers stock around the time when he was finishing. They also said that the only Lurcher he was interested in was Collie/Greyhound do you know if this is so. They also said that they were breeding from Plummer lurcher stock. 

[TelephonePete 111]

All very interesting. This is my first Collie and perhaps my last Dog. I find the Collie fascinating after a lifetime with the German Shepherds. Many GSD"s but only two absolute top quality Dogs (temperament). I wish I had come to collies earlier but not so. I have been very interested in lurchers all this time and the care that goes into their breeding compared with the rubbish principles adopted by the pedigree fraternity. Some time ago I travelled from Cornnwall to just north of Glasgow for a Plummer Terrier. Whilst there they told me that they took a lot of Plummers stock around the time when he was finishing. They also said that the only Lurcher he was interested in was Collie/Greyhound do you know if this is so. They also said that they were breeding from Plummer lurcher stock. 

[TelephonePete 111]

All very interesting. This is my first Collie and perhaps my last Dog. I find the Collie fascinating after a lifetime with the German Shepherds. Many GSD"s but only two absolute top quality Dogs (temperament). I wish I had come to collies earlier but not so. I have been very interested in lurchers all this time and the care that goes into their breeding compared with the rubbish principles adopted by the pedigree fraternity. Some time ago I travelled from Cornnwall to just north of Glasgow for a Plummer Terrier. Whilst there they told me that they took a lot of Plummers stock around the time when he was finishing. They also said that the only Lurcher he was interested in was Collie/Greyhound do you know if this is so. They also said that they were breeding from Plummer lurcher stock. 

[Black neck 16,340]

8 minutes ago, tomfromwest said:

All very interesting. This is my first Collie and perhaps my last Dog. I find the Collie fascinating after a lifetime with the German Shepherds. Many GSD"s but only two absolute top quality Dogs (temperament). I wish I had come to collies earlier but not so. I have been very interested in lurchers all this time and the care that goes into their breeding compared with the rubbish principles adopted by the pedigree fraternity. Some time ago I travelled from Cornnwall to just north of Glasgow for a Plummer Terrier. Whilst there they told me that they took a lot of Plummers stock around the time when he was finishing. They also said that the only Lurcher he was interested in was Collie/Greyhound do you know if this is so. They also said that they were breeding from Plummer lurcher stock. 

Merle was the start of a dynasty 

[gnipper 6,571]

You can say that again mate

[TelephonePete 111]

2 hours ago, tomfromwest said:

and again and again. Dont know how to delete.

 

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[Borr 6,668]

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I tend to leave topic then come back and select clear editor, or ask a mod to delete or clean up topic.

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10 hours ago, Ferretman65 said:

That's wee bitch iam starting to work this season she's 8 months now whippet x greyhound first cross 

You don’t see many of them a bout. Be handy for hares on tricky land  and all