When do you become a pedler?

[robbie4444 5]

mike breeds good pups if people didnt want them he could not sell them whats the problem he is only giving the people what they want

[Guest blue_boy]

so you all dont mind pupy peddling so stop making a big deal about it then

[Guest reload]

IMO you breed for yourself and friends, to get the next generation IMO.....When people advertise there breeding a litter at least twice a year, every year, its for the money...Simple :no:

 

The whole marketing of using the work WORKING before a breed name, like lets say a whippet, its just to appeal to the audience of people who think they are buying a superior whippet, not Just a normal whippet but a (wait for it)....a real deal WORKING whippet It's all about the ££££ and not the dogs, Sadly Same thing applys to lurchers, and many many sorts of dogs out there

[Irish Lurcher 1,013]

Talk about putting cat among peigons, great thread.

 

The only two guys I hear about are hancock and brown, they both breed for gain, whats the difference???

 

 

The reason I ask what the difference between them is the fact that I have never been to eithers yard, so I am not taking a stab at either of them, who has been to both yards and whats the differecne between them??

 

Reason I ask this is it all depends on how pups are bred, if a man is willing to spend money in order to turn out good pups then I think thats the difference, while ya have the other guy who turns out anything and tells you the pups are the dogs.

 

 

 

Thats how I see it, I am sure others see it in a different light

[Guest reload]

Reason I ask this is it all depends on how pups are bred, if a man is willing to spend money in order to turn out good pups then I think thats the difference, while ya have the other guy who turns out anything and tells you the pups are the dogs.

 

Its exactly that TURNING OUT pups, yes its better spending money and time on them, great stuff, but they are still turning out pups!!

 

Easy trap to get drawn into, like the lad who buys a pedigree dog, then clocks that a pup goes for £500 each, its a big temptation.........and results in more pups bred for money, and in these situations the breeding is rarely thoughtout either.

[Guest bitsa lurcher]

so anyone who breeds a litter olds one back for themself should give rest away?if they sell them for money there a peddler

breed for own use only and cull what is spare keep your blood lines close to home

[minion 29]

Reason I ask this is it all depends on how pups are bred, if a man is willing to spend money in order to turn out good pups then I think thats the difference, while ya have the other guy who turns out anything and tells you the pups are the dogs.

 

Its exactly that TURNING OUT pups, yes its better spending money and time on them, great stuff, but they are still turning out pups!!

 

Easy trap to get drawn into, like the lad who buys a pedigree dog, then clocks that a pup goes for £500 each, its a big temptation.........and results in more pups bred for money, and in these situations the breeding is rarely thoughtout either.

 

 

I agree it would be an easy trap to get into. You could make a fair bit of cash.

 

If you work full time then i think it would be hard to give four or five bitches an equal amount of work. Say you work mon - fri 8 - 5 then unless you are out every single night and every weekend then it would be hard. Particularly if you have any other hobbies, a partner or kids. No matter how hard core you are there are nights when you've had a hard day and just want an early night.

 

People say that there are expenses when it comes to vet fees etc but what about the guys who breed to get a pup? they suerly have the same expenses thay ped owners have but still they give the pups away to friends or sell them at reasonable prices.

 

I love having dogs and would pay what I could afford. I dont think £350 is exesive and I dont have a problem with someone breeding a litter and selling them at these prices. I do think its a bit unfair on the dogs to use them as a breeding machine though!!!!!

 

From a personal point of view, any dog I have lives indoors. My wife does not like them being in the kennels overnight and i respect her views. this means I could never end up breeding litters of dogs year in year out as -

 

A. i dont have the space to keep loads of dogs indoors

B. i cant be bothered with the hasle of people messing about when they odnt even want to buy a pup

C. i have other hobies and comitments as well as the dogs and I would only keep the amount of dogs i could work.

 

There are people keeping KC dogs and breeding them puerly for money. I think the reason they dont attract as much attention is because they are sold to the pet market and pet owners are not as switched on as working dog owners. They dont have the same expectations from a pup.

 

Brian Plummer had a kennel breeding dogs puerley for the pet market. He sold KC reg shepards, beardie collies (un reg) Cavaleirs, Westies, mastifs and Great Danes. I knew Brian really really well but I did not agree with his business. I liked him and got on really well with him but I never once pretended to agree with what he did.

 

The pups were clean and heathly and the dogs were looked after, but thats no life for a dog. Stuck in a kennel all day. NOT FOR ME.

 

One thing though, to be fair to Brian, he had several old dogs, to old for breeding, that had a home till they died of natural causes. Hancock shoots his bitches once they are too old to breed. Hancock is a business man. not a very plesant one, but if you were looking at puppy pedling as a business then you would want to keep your costs down. I was appauled at the thought at first but whats better for the dogs? at least its all over rather than being stuck in a kennel 24/7 with no live and no exersize.

 

It is good to see people voice their opinions though.

[Guest blue_boy]

IMO you breed for yourself and friends, to get the next generation IMO.....When people advertise there breeding a litter at least twice a year, every year, its for the money...Simple :no:

 

The whole marketing of using the work WORKING before a breed name, like lets say a whippet, its just to appeal to the audience of people who think they are buying a superior whippet, not Just a normal whippet but a (wait for it)....a real deal WORKING whippet It's all about the ££££ and not the dogs, Sadly Same thing applys to lurchers, and many many sorts of dogs out there

 

 

mate your a geniues culdnt put it better myself

[Guest baldie]

I believe there are now legal limits on the amount of bitches kept, and the amount of litters bred, above which a breeders licence is legally required.Its a shame the arsepca dont do more about this, instead of chasing hunters. I know a keeper who breeds borders, and not one of his bitches ever gets through a season without being lined...its a puppy factory, they are in shit conditions, and its a f*****g disgrace.

There are plenty of puppies in this land, people are just too idle to look, and travel for them.

My definition of a non-peddler, is the guy who breeds for his own stock, and GIVES the surplus to friends.Good animals are never advertised....fact.

[Guest blue_boy]

so anyone who breeds a litter olds one back for themself should give rest away?if they sell them for money there a peddler

breed for own use only and cull what is spare keep your blood lines close to home

 

bolloks nothing wrong with a descent lurcher man making a bit of pocket money on the pups they are not breeding 10 litters a year i ve seen some nice dogs on here if i had the room id give other real lurcher mens pups a go cull them dont be stupid man

[lurchergrrl 1,441]

You're a peddler if you're looking at things from a money making perspective. Perpetuating the line of a proven dog is a good thing if done responsibly. Sadly, most people don't do it that way.

 

Look at that Hancock w***er - he knows he's passing hip displaysia around and he could care less Only concerned about the £ - not about the hassles, heartbreak etc he's causing. If I bred from my bitch I'd go into knowing that the foremost concern is the lineage not how much dosh I might make.

[tory 0]

Good animals are never advertised....fact.

[mackay 3,308]

Good animals are never advertised....fact.

 

So all the pups/dogs/ferrets advertised on here then are shite?.

[Guest blue_boy]

Good animals are never advertised....fact.

 

 

what a load of shite :11: :crazy: