tyson 1 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 to be honest you cant get out of it whats not in it mate , its never gonna have the stamina of a saluki , so just keep him on his toes , plenty of free running exercise is always best , and the odd night behind the motor for a few miles so if the dog looks right and you giving him good excercise already , then you aint gonna push much more out of the dog Quote Link to post
Guest SJM Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Samba and Tyson are right, some dogs are just destined to have stamina, and some arent, and theres not a whole lot you can do about that. Good food will be to the dog what quality fuel is to an engine, it will allow you the best performance out of it, but if youve only got a mini engine under the hood, your not going to be able to compete with the big boys out on the racetrack. Exercise and fitness training are the same, they will only polish off the finishing touches to the dog, but they wont put qualities into the animal that arent allready there. And it all comes back to the most important point that many people miss and that is that you cant assess these qualities from the outside of the dog, they are hidden and unseen on the inside (a bit like the engine being under the bonnet) and only work will show the dog for what it really is Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 buy urself as good a qualitie single handed breed pup, best u can offord. and an 8 week old 1 at that so ur not buying other lads rubbish unless ur a millair that is. thats the only way ull get a sticker. if it where as easy as getting a dog a bit of road work and uv got a champ then men wouldnt have used the best dogs to get top coursers 4 the last 30 years or so. Quote Link to post
Garn 0 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'll ditto SJM on that one. Terrain type and quarry spiecie(s) run in a night out can also have variable effects upon stamina imo. A dog maybe able to do how ever many miles behind a bike, but when it's out lamping, twisting and turning for several hours with short breaks between, then a completely different kind of stamina and fitness shows. Quote Link to post
baldockbanks courser 598 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 to be trueful iv never liked lamping for fittness. i dont think a day time hare dog should be got fit in this way on rabbits for coursing. it educates them the rong way at hedges and iv never liked running hares on the lamp at best they run average at worst not worth a carrot. shes a great little animal let her get rolling and slip on her in the day they deserve a bit of respect boys . Quote Link to post
limerick999 0 Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 to be trueful iv never liked lamping for fittness. i dont think a day time hare dog should be got fit in this way on rabbits for coursing. it educates them the rong way at hedges and iv never liked running hares on the lamp at best they run average at worst not worth a carrot. shes a great little animal let her get rolling and slip on her in the day they deserve a bit of respect boys . your right there a lamping dog wil be more likely to pull up at a ditch during the day Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 lamping might not improve the fittness for daytime courseing but it does improve strikeing and helps with sharpness .....but if we are talking hares pre ban of course .....after you have conditioned you dog ie get it semi fit with road jogging ...bushing whatever.. to help the dog on and to help prevent injuries which an unfit dog will get injured alot easier .....the only way to get your dog to its full fittness is by running the quarry ..i.e. running fittness .......different fittness for different quarry .....once you have conditioned a dog at the start off the season ....you wont need to do much else with it if you are running regulary ...maybe the odd jog out .......but rest now and again is as good for a dog as work is ..... .......and like i said before always start a young dog daytime ..if you are going to lamp your dog later it will soon learn when to stop or how far to go when lamping .and if you start it daytime it will jump over a gate go through an edge ..ect ect ........ Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 anyone know of how i can get my lurcher to have more staying power stamina for h--- hunting Preban ,when I was in to competitive coursing ,I gave my dogs an hour to an hour and a half bushing ,then 5 -6 miles behind the bike.Acollie x won't ever have the stay of a saluki x ,it will be fast for 1 possibly 2 runs but on big land it will struggle if you are going for runs that may last over a minute,imo Bike work is far more beneficial than walking ,the dog must trot to keep with you and you can do 5-6 miles in under an hour after a suitable build up,When I worked shifts I coud do it before I went to work ,but provided you have lights on your bike ,and a flourescent vest over your coat you should be allright after work,I had a flourescent dog collar as well that had a light that went on and off,I didnt buy it ,won it at some show ,but what the hell i t was extra visibility.Do take care to build your dog up slowly,and inspect its pad's for signs of wear and tear ,soft pads can wear thin very quickly,surgical spirit ,or friars balsam are good for hardening up the skin,but the emphasis is on a slow build up ,start with 1 maybe 2 miles and as the dog gets fitter increase the distance and shorten the time .PS make sure you empty your dog before starting out,a sudden squat in the road can hoist you off backwards,sometimes to land in the fresh deposit!Good Luck!Good grub is a must ,I give mine viamin E before a hard day200 iu two days before ,and 400 iu on the morning they are working. Quote Link to post
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