Texas shooting

[Nicepix 5,650]

17 minutes ago, mackem said:

Then they shouldn't have been there, claiming a salary under false pretences, they are actually told if they aren't up to the job they should look for an alternative career

I agree. But you also have to look at who selected them and why? The whole ethos of recruitment is biased towards sociology, not public safety. Many of the people the modern police forces are recruiting are not prepared to do the job at its dirtiest. In one midlands force they were losing new recruits within weeks of them going on the streets. Some of them didn't realise they had to work weekends and night shifts. How the hell can these people be chosen, equipped, trained and not know that they have to rearrange their social diaries to fit in with the job?

To put it it perspective ; that force has 88% of its front line officers with less than 3 years service. 20 years ago that would have been less than 20%. The turniver of staff is phenominal because the people joining don't realise what is involved.

And that is down to management. 

[mackem 26,433]

2 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

I agree.

 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,903]

54 minutes ago, mackem said:

The majority let's be honest are in it for the benefits, period, and to look the bollocks in group photos or cruising in an F350 with their aviators on issuing traffic violation tickets, look at the package these useless fuckers are on, do they give VFM? 

Benefits

WWW.HPDCAREER.COM

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Houston Police Department Recruiting

 

Where do I sign up ? 

[mackem 26,433]

1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Where do I sign up ? 

Uvalde PD, I think they are going to have a few vacancies coming up

[WILF 46,810]

1 hour ago, mackem said:

The majority let's be honest are in it for the benefits, period, and to look the bollocks in group photos or cruising in an F350 with their aviators on issuing traffic violation tickets, look at the package these useless fuckers are on, do they give VFM? 

Benefits

WWW.HPDCAREER.COM

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Houston Police Department Recruiting

 

I’d say thats completely fair and no less than any of them should get when you consider what they are potentially going out the house to face every morning.

Who the feck would do that job for £9:50 and hour and look out for yourself in every other regard ?……why should they ?

Train drivers earn the same and nobody is shooting at them ! 

[mackem 26,433]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

I’d say thats completely fair and no less than any of them should get when you consider what they are potentially going out the house to face every morning.

Me too IF they met their side of the obligation

[WILF 46,810]

10 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Where do I sign up ? 

I have always said a small town PD would be right up your alley brother…..you’d be the English Buford T. Justice ! 

[WILF 46,810]

1 minute ago, mackem said:

Me too IF they met their side of the obligation

I’d say most of them do on a daily basis……

[mackem 26,433]

Just now, WILF said:

I’d say most of them do on a daily basis……

Not when it mattered most, ask the parents of 19 children. 

[WILF 46,810]

Just now, mackem said:

Not when it mattered most, ask the parents of 19 children. 

Not when it mattered in this particular instance with this particular PD and those particular officers in that small majority Hispanic town.

You have travelled widely and I have not mate but you know that America is a massive place and who would want to go out the door every morning in Chicago or South Central LA or Washington ?……and yet thousands of officers do, every single day and they deal with the worst type of savage animals all day, every day.

Like military personnel they deserve everything they get and then some ! 

[mackem 26,433]

Just now, WILF said:

Not when it mattered 

On that we both agree. 

[WILF 46,810]

Just now, mackem said:

On that we both agree. 

Do you think there is a widespread culture of cowardice and dereliction of duty amongst law enforcement in the USA then mate ? 
 

Do you actually think that is true ? 
 

 

[mackem 26,433]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Do you think there is a widespread culture of cowardice and dereliction of duty amongst law enforcement in the USA then mate ? 

Certainly in the Uvalde Police dept, yesterday on TV it was described as the biggest policing "mistake" in the history of texan law enforcement, you could swap dereliction of duty for mistake easily, a mistake is forgetting paperwork or similar, none of the 19 in the school followed their training,which they had actually refreshed two months earlier. 

[mackem 26,433]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

Do you think there is a widespread culture of cowardice and dereliction of duty amongst law enforcement in the USA then mate ? 

I missed the bit where I said widespread culture, we are talking about Uvalde, I have met a few cops in the States who were OK and some who were doughnut munchers. 

[WILF 46,810]

I have to say, it’s little wonder that the UK has ended up with a police force of stealth tax collectors and woke box tickers who prefer to f**k over the van driver with a blown tail bulb than deal with the gang of coons round the corner…….

The Lawrence enquiry and the ludicrous “endemic racism” label that it gave the police and our willingness to run with that nonsense as a people totally emasculated the police……

Can you imagine our police in America ?……they would get rinsed !

It would be chaos ! 
 

I refuse to believe that cowardice is endemic is US law enforcement, lack of joined up training yes, lack of skilled training yes but cowardice no way…..you wouldn’t go to work if you was. 
 

We bash those who stand between us and the vermin at our peril imho.