Texas shooting

[mackem 26,433]

One parent put it succinctly, why did they fail our children? 

[BGD 6,436]

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,903]

4 hours ago, Francie said:

So we're the f**k was the ulvade swat team?an why weren't they dispatched?

 

4 hours ago, mackem said:

I am watching a news report at the moment, LEO are coming across more like chief wiggum than judge dredd, but they did drills in the school recently, they were taught speed is of the essence,failed miserably on all counts, we can all draw our own conclusions. 

 

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Yeah, clearly the selection and training of the border patrol tac team is appropriate compared to that of the local LEOs. That’s not surprising obviously. They are specialists.

I just know that organisations with rigid hierarchical structures can experience hesitancy when lower ranks need to operate outside of their experience. You can explicitly tell them to break the rules they’re used to but there’s still often hesitancy.

Specialists are often selected and trained to encourage independence and initiative. It’s a totally different level but look how ‘obi-wan Nairobi’ went…

I dunno, I’m just speculating. Emotional accusations of cowardice are understandable but are they accurate.

“Everybody wants to be an operator until it’s time to do operator things “

[mackem 26,433]

Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

 

 

“Everybody wants to be an operator until it’s time to do operator things “

Exactly, they took the pay, they took the respect, they took the oath, but.............

[paul sr 798]

1 hour ago, BGD said:

The small female ,says alot about this swat team . Years ago before political correctness and quatos . Most swat teams had ex military members , ex marines , ex rangers ,army,etc . 

[mackem 26,433]

This lady would have put the LEO in the school corridor, who it's now reported were waiting for a negotiator and specialist riflemen?, to shame. 

Armed female bystander kills man firing at party in West Virginia

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A woman at a birthday party drew her pistol and left the gunman with multiple wounds...

 

[paul sr 798]

3 minutes ago, mackem said:

This lady would have put the LEO in the school corridor, who it's now reported were waiting for a negotiator and specialist riflemen?, to shame. 

Armed female bystander kills man firing at party in West Virginia

WWW.BBC.COM

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A woman at a birthday party drew her pistol and left the gunman with multiple wounds...

 

Game on and she took care of business . It is a pity there was not someone like her at that school.

[dytkos 17,793]

They shit out. R.I.P the victims.

D.

[Ken's Deputy 4,459]

[steve66 3,449]

Surprised the NRA didnt cancel there conference in texas this weekend , seems to be a total lack of respect 

and Trump reading out the kids names with a bell tolling in the background was just cringe worthy point scoring 

[paul sr 798]

4 minutes ago, steve66 said:

Surprised the NRA didnt cancel there conference in texas this weekend , seems to be a total lack of respect 

and Trump reading out the kids names with a bell tolling in the background was just cringe worthy point scoring 

I think most ordinary NRA members would except a 3 to 4 week back round check and stricter laws on the storage of firearms , but that would be it .

[waltjnr 6,771]

Country is fukcd,world is fukcd ,will happen again ,and again ,slippery slope ! But hey you have a vote ,that will sort it !!

[mackem 26,433]

 

[Nicepix 5,650]

17 hours ago, mackem said:

This lady would have put the LEO in the school corridor, who it's now reported were waiting for a negotiator and specialist riflemen?, to shame. 

Armed female bystander kills man firing at party in West Virginia

WWW.BBC.COM

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A woman at a birthday party drew her pistol and left the gunman with multiple wounds...

 

That is so very true. The people making the decisions are shit scared of ruining their promotion prospects or being sued for negligence so they go by the manual of guidance. That would have been written with litigation avoidance iin mind.

It was the same in my previous life. On route to one job, a knifeman holding the police at bay I was told that there was a trained negotiater on route, eta one hour. My response was that I had a trained negotiater in the back of the van and we would deal in minutes. The Force Incident Manager nearly sh@t herself, but it was over in less than five minutes my way. No need for rendevouz a mile from the scene with ambulance crews, fire service uncle Tom Cobbly and all.

Risk avoidance and the wrong people in the job through politically correct recruitment will bite the public on the arris for years to come.

[WILF 46,810]

25 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

That is so very true. The people making the decisions are shit scared of ruining their promotion prospects or being sued for negligence so they go by the manual of guidance. That would have been written with litigation avoidance iin mind.

It was the same in my previous life. On route to one job, a knifeman holding the police at bay I was told that there was a trained negotiater on route, eta one hour. My response was that I had a trained negotiater in the back of the van and we would deal in minutes. The Force Incident Manager nearly sh@t herself, but it was over in less than five minutes my way. No need for rendevouz a mile from the scene with ambulance crews, fire service uncle Tom Cobbly and all.

Risk avoidance and the wrong people in the job through politically correct recruitment will bite the public on the arris for years to come.

You are talking about the U.K. there and I think the public have got exactly what they asked for in the way of a police service !