Is m parishs lucky the best of all time.

[low plains drifter 10,480]

58 minutes ago, Gene said:

Yeah mate but if you get too tight they start breaking apart.

 

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,482]

24 minutes ago, mush said:

When you say ( the list of salukis) faster than a coursing bred. What do you mean by coursing bred ? Mean saluki lurchers.?

Yea 

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,482]

3 hours ago, dodger said:

Absolutely correct I was happy with my pure saluki but my coursing bred bitch I had at the same time had a fair bit more in the tank.

Same with the pure I had, had a doubled up run once with my coursing bred bitch on a real good hare after about 3 minutes the pure started lagging behind 

[Black neck 15,949]

48 minutes ago, low plains drifter said:

 

Ffs that's gen me wood ,into leggins 

[mush 204]

Ive never seen a pure out run from lack of stamina unless there was a reason.

[Deerhunter1 771]

9 minutes ago, Gene said:

I still can't get my head around coursing lads refusing to accept that other sighthound blood, be that of greyhound/whippet have possibly brought a lot to the mix in the coursing breds.

If they didn't are they saying it was the saluki back in the day that added that speed, if so then how come the coursing breds are usually faster than pure saluki?

Without greyhound blood very few hares would be killed at all

[Black neck 15,949]

25 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said:

Without greyhound blood very few hares would be killed at all

Not much of anything would 

[mush 204]

27 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said:

Without greyhound blood very few hares would be killed at all

Wouldn't you just breed your saluki faster for the land.  greyhound blood is just a quick fix, just look at some of the close bred ones look just like salukies

[mush 204]

12 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Not much of anything

2 minutes ago, Gene said:

But that's the thing isn't it, if the old timers were sourcing good pures back in the day why did they feel the need to add other breeds to the mix?

I know the narrative is they just used what they had at the time but some of those lads were putting the time and effort in to getting pures so I don't think they may have been as hard up for good blood as we think.

 

 

Should think it was very hard , almost impossible to get a good pure and still is. 

[mC HULL 12,502]

1 hour ago, Deerhunter1 said:

Without greyhound blood very few hares would be killed at all

come on you been serious  

[mC HULL 12,502]

3 hours ago, Gene said:

Yeah mate but if you get too tight they start breaking apart.

then your inbreeding aren’t you if very close

[mC HULL 12,502]

42 minutes ago, Gene said:

So what's the crack then? The dogs of today came down off the few good pures that were around or did they come off mediocre pures and that's why other breeds were added to the pot?

You have to think, just because im those pures were the best we had that doesn't mean they were the best out there.

you got your hands on a good pure back then it wasn’t easy to get a lining 

a saluki lurcher runs just like a pure saluki 

just that saluki lurchers of today are from good killers it’s bound to improve them 

it is still hard now to get a lining from saluki breeders isn’t it 

[mC HULL 12,502]

6 minutes ago, Gene said:

Don't you think it's possible that there's lines of pures in the middle east that are superior to the coursing breds of today?

All these questions are like the chicken or the egg questions, I suppose that even the coursing breds are that heavily saluki saturated that a greyhound/whippet/bedlington or whatever has no relevance whatsoever because they are that far back in the line.

i would think middle eastern dogs are more long distance runners 

the salukis used bk in the day like knightellington windswift etc we’re used for hare coursing aswell as showing they could kill hares 

[Deerhunter1 771]

21 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

come on you been serious  

Greyhound blood is hugely under valued, people don’t realise how important it is. Back in the days before the ban you wouldn’t be having much success on deer either with a pure saluki that’s a fact & I’ve never heard of one that would do a turn on foxes.

[dodger 2,765]

 

 

Edited May 27, 2022 by dodger