African Werewolf

[mackem 26,955]

4 hours ago, WILF said:

The species matter little really, if some fat f***ing dentist is paying 50 grand to bait in a tiger that lives in some enclosure then it’s for him…..it isn’t a service.

He probably has a Harley Davidson and a leather jacket and wares a bandanna at weekends……either way, the geezer is a screamer ! 

He has a brand new porsche and is in the gym every day, Walter palmer the dentist works hard and travels worldwide for his hunting, don't fall for the hatchet-job the press did on him

[mackem 26,955]

2 hours ago, TOMO said:

jesus....i hadnt seen that....got to say that looked pretty scary ....i assume the tiger was shot??

No mate, it wasn't,it bit the mahouts hand, I think there's a three-strikes and your out ruling, kill three people and your relocated?I have a pic somewhere of a pug mark, the park ranger assured me it was a tigress that's taken over a dozen people, human life's cheap tigers bring in tourism cash. 

[mackem 26,955]

2 hours ago, TOMO said:

 ...also the female has a penis....  

Called a pseudo-penis

[Tyla 3,179]

I've spent a bit of time in Africa and even a very little while working on a hunting concession in Mozambique. On an practical level I am very pro big game hunting, the best managed preserves I ever visited there were private hunting concessions paid for with trophy dollars. They held far more wildlife than any of the parks at that time at least and we're far more efficient at anti poaching. As far as making wildlife pay and therefore survive in Africa trophy hunting is vital.

On a personal level I wouldnt want to hunt the big predators myself. 

As far as trophy hunters go the few I met were a mixed bag, some really decent sorts and some utter dicks.

They most impressive people I saw out there were the native trackers. A skill that has to be seen to be believed. It was very obvious that without the money from their job tracking for the safari firms they would be out poaching the same place to death. 

 

 

[TOMO 26,435]

you couldn't really blame the actual poachers on the ground out there...if you were living on a bag of rice and a cup full of dirty water a day ...and some Asian middle man offered you a bundle of cash to drop a rhino for its horn what you going to do...it's them Asian markets that need stopping

[tatsblisters 10,028]

Big game hunting has always fascinated me from reading certain books on the subject though myself I could never bring myself to shoot a leopard or lion or a tiger for that matter though I wouldn't have a problem shooting a Cape buffalo. 

[TOMO 26,435]

1 minute ago, tatsblisters said:

Big game hunting has always fascinated me from reading certain books on the subject though myself I could never bring myself to shoot a leopard or lion or a tiger for that matter though I wouldn't have a problem shooting a Cape buffalo. 

same for me mate...I couldn't do any of those predators...or an elephant rhino ....but I would love a go at the antelope species especially with a long dog 

[mackem 26,955]

2 minutes ago, TOMO said:

you couldn't really blame the actual poachers on the ground out there...if you were living on a bag of rice and a cup full of dirty water a day ...and some Asian middle man offered you a bundle of cash to drop a rhino for its horn what you going to do...it's them Asian markets that need stopping

Even without the Asian Market the animals would be poached to f**k, bushmeat and population growth, farming, it's hunting and tourism that stave off the inevitable.The oriental mindset as you say, doesn't help, a number of the tiger zoo's in Thailand have been found to be breeding Tigers for the pseudo medicinal placebo Chinese Market. 

[mackem 26,955]

4 minutes ago, McVey said:

As anyone noticed that most record sized specimens are from years ago, I've read that trophy hunting big males of any species may have a detrimental effect on the size of these males.

Of course some listings of record animals are probably off due to unreliable sources or incorrect measuring but it's food for thought.

It does make sense, if you only shoot the biggest of males, then smaller, weaker males will take their place and enter the gene pool.

I'm sure lesser males do occasionally get to breed anyway but with nobody ruling the roost this may get more common than is usual.

Under poaching pressure, elephants are evolving to lose their tusks

WWW.NATIONALGEOGRAPHIC.COM

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In Mozambique, researchers are racing to understand the genetics of elephants born without...

 

[mackem 26,955]

3 minutes ago, McVey said:

I suppose a counter argument to my post is that even if the trophy males are killed, who's to say they already haven't mated with many females and entered the gene pool before they've been shot?

Also, if the males are killed there's no control over the females, genetics are 50/50, maybe it will even itself as big females can still mate with the smaller males.

A bloke paid 60 thousand USD to hunt this elephant, Ricky Jervaise offered £40k to anyone who knocked the hunters teeth out. 

[Wolfdog91 7,253]

I'm just curious, seriously, how many of you have went after animal that could kill you?

[mackem 26,955]

5 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said:

I'm just curious, seriously, how many of you have went after animal that could kill you?

I have actually been "Treed" by a rhino while walking, had two charges, one was a bluff but we still ran to a tree, second we got up the tree and the rhino snorted and stomped around under it. 

[mackem 26,955]

7 minutes ago, McVey said:

I don't know what to think or believe with incidents like this.

If the money from these shoots actually help in the long run then through gritted I could accept it.

If it prevents habitat destruction and extinction then it's a no brainer isn't it, that's of course if that's what's happening, I would guess there's still a mass of habitat destruction regardless.

I think without hunting dollars in some 3'rd world countries the animals would be greatly reduced in number quite quickly. 

[Tyla 3,179]

16 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said:

I'm just curious, seriously, how many of you have went after animal that could kill you?

Been treed by a wounded buffalo shot by a client and stalked by a lion at night. Both were pretty sketchy but I wasn't actually hunting. Closest I've come to is hunting dangerous game myself is probably pigs in nz. Don't think they kill people but can mess you up if you aren't paying attention. I never caught any big enough to be a danger though

[Wolfdog91 7,253]

6 minutes ago, Tyla said:

Been treed by a wounded buffalo shot by a client and stalked by a lion at night. Both were pretty sketchy but I wasn't actually hunting. Closest I've come to is hunting dangerous game myself is probably pigs in nz. Don't think they kill people but can mess you up if you aren't paying attention. I never caught any big enough to be a danger though

 

19 minutes ago, mackem said:

I have actually been "Treed" by a rhino while walking, had two charges, one was a bluff but we still ran to a tree, second we got up the tree and the rhino snorted and stomped around under it. 

Had a feeling you two would have had experiences like that from your comments. Thank you