Best lamp.

[PhilH 189]

7 hours ago, Black neck said:

I find your post sickening 

Interesting. Care to elaborate...????

Cheers

Phil

[burrowman 6]

Thanks for all the info folks, it looks like it’s a halogen lamp with a variable power switch. Can any give me a brand name and model that are still available cos from reading previous posts it seems like they are very hard to get nowadays. 

[burrowman 6]

18 hours ago, PhilH said:

This is a collection of night vision gear that I have used over the last couple of years before I started using thermal. That said, I still often use the simple torch mounted on a rifle as I like simplicity.

I regularly go spotting bunnies with just red light attached to the scope as in this following picture

The torch attached here is a Convoy C8+ in Red beam. It is second from the left in the top picture. In good weather I use it regularly to shoot possums, rabbits and hares out to 150 meters. They cost about $70 in New Zealand which equates to about UK 36 pound.

The first torch on the left shown in the top picture is a Convoy L21B. Again bought in New Zealand for $90 or UK 46 pound.

This throws a red beam out past 200 meters. Last night I was using it to take possums and hares the furthest shot out to 164 meters. Also used it to take a pig at 159 meters last night. The furthest I have ever used it was on a Red yearling at 305 meters. It sits on the rifle using the same mount as pictured above.

Both these torches can be purchased from Aliexpress for around $US20

Hope that might be helpful.

 

Cheers

Phil

 

 

 

 

Thanks PhilH for all your info if I can’t source a halogen lamp I think that Convoy L21B looks the business....is it true that red light doesn’t scare the rabbits as much as white light ?

[PhilH 189]

@burrowman, as @W. Katchum stated, they soon suss any light. The issue with the Convoy L21B is that it is a very strong concentrated beam and at close range they are definitely very wary. You have better results at longer ranges - over 100 meters. The Convoy 8+ has a shorter range, throws a wider beam and is not so intense on the animals. I prefer that beam when they are in range to use it. The rifle mounting that I have pictured is not as secure as some that clip onto rails etc. but I prefer that as at times I skew the beam ever so slightly so I am picking up the  animal with the side of the beam and yet can still have the crosshair right on them. They appear much calmer that way. I am not sure if you have wild pigs to hunt in Ireland but the red light just does not bother them at over 40 meters. They might stop and look at it briefly but they then generally just go on grazing. Deer are a mixed bag. If they have had a bad experience with a red beam they bolt. If they haven't encountered one before they either ignore it or generally just stop and stare, as in the Red spiker I took last Friday night. I also have a Convoy 8+ in green beam as well. It also works a treat with pigs, better than the red beam as they show up better, especially the black pigs.

Cheers

Phil 

[PhilH 189]

Further to my previous post @burrowman, there is a young lad here in New Zealand who has tried to get a business running that only sells lamps/torches. He has sold a lot to hunters here nationwide but his business is in a bit of a hiatus with Covid taking its toll and he has had to go out and get a day job for a time, just to make ends meet.

That all said, he is very knowledgeable and has a lot of good information on his site and with just about every torch he sells he has gone out and made a video of it to demonstrate its capabilities. The site is well worth a look just for this alone. The site is 

Torches/Flashlights | NZ | Piercing The Darkness

WWW.PIERCINGTHEDARKNESS.CO.NZ

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Piercing the darkness stocks the best value range of high quality flashlights and accessories at the best...

and just before anyone asks, I, like many other hunters here in NZ have no association with the owner other than just being a very satisfied repeat customer.

@W. Katchum, if you have an address for your source on facebook that would be really good. I am not a member of facebook but often the sites are public for those not in the fold.

Hope this is helpful.

Cheers

Phil

 

[Night_Into_Day 0]

On 18/04/2022 at 07:06, C.green said:

Your have hard job spotting some stuff in stubble or grass with they led lamps compared to halogen. But them led are hard to beat for convenience.

You're right, Halogen are better than most LEDs due to their Color Rendering Index (CRI) value is 100 for accurate colors. Many LEDs are around 60 - 80 which will wash out the colors. High CRI LEDs exist, but many aren't for long range to suit most hunting applications. If you knew how to modify a flashlight then you could source a circuit board / driver and a suitable LED.

The only higher CRI LEDs I'm aware of, for longer range, are the following:

Cree XHP35.2 HI 90 CRI variant

Cree XHP50.2 HI "

Luminus SST20 4000K and below are high CRI

 

There'll be others, just can't think of any right now. You can of course dedome many others to achieve the range.

 

 

[burrowman 6]

Thanks Phil for all your info. We don’t have feral pigs in Ireland but I did hunt them a long time ago in Australia, those razorbacks are huge. 

[PhilH 189]

Yes, our feral pigs here aren't as large as those in Australia but here is one that I took about 6 months ago up the hill in behind us.

Incidentally that is a Bergara .308 single shot Scout with suppressor in behind it, with a Convoy 8+ red beam mounted on it. I took him initially with a 130 gr Accubond at just under 200 meters. As I say, they light up well in the red or green beam. I had to go to about 70 meters to put a finishing shot into him unfortunately......they are bloody hard to kill at times, far harder than our largest Red stags.

Cheers

Phil

[Black neck 15,929]

On 18/04/2022 at 19:56, PhilH said:

Interesting. Care to elaborate...????

Cheers

Phil

Nevermind Phil I thought u was in England shooting all the rabbits and hares 

Carry on 

[burrowman 6]

They sure are hard to kill Phil, when were hunting them in Australia, one day my mate downed a big boar at around 150yds with a .22/250 but when he when he got close to check he was dead (the boar was only badly stomach wounded) he jumped up and chased him. Now I’m not joking but my mate had a .357 magnum in his chest holster and as he was running he was emptying the magazine into the boar but he just kept coming and only for a sheep wire fence that my mate jumped he prob would have been caught and killed. 

[PhilH 189]

7 minutes ago, burrowman said:

They sure are hard to kill Phil, when were hunting them in Australia, one day my mate downed a big boar at around 150yds with a .22/250 but when he when he got close to check he was dead (the boar was only badly stomach wounded) he jumped up and chased him. Now I’m not joking but my mate had a .357 magnum in his chest holster and as he was running he was emptying the magazine into the boar but he just kept coming and only for a sheep wire fence that my mate jumped he prob would have been caught and killed. 

From my experience here, our boars don't seem to be that aggressive. In most instances they will try and evade you, though different case if you corner or bale them. Even then they might just try and run past you but their tusks are truly razor sharp and even an unintentional passing scrape can leave a huge gash. The only one that has looked like she was going to have a go at me was a big old sow whose piglet I had just dispatched. The noise of my chambering another round caused her to rethink it and she made a hasty retreat.  Lucky for me and lucky for her.

Cheers

Phil

[mC HULL 12,463]

On 18/04/2022 at 23:35, W. Katchum said:

They soon suss any light pal, filter will work the first couple times if used right but they soon catch on, jist look around for a light force variable, I’m sure there’s a lad on Facebook selling a load, he got a load an selling them off, be on one the lamping pages

you want to start catching em katchum not chasing about until there wise

[mC HULL 12,463]

7 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I don’t use a filter, tried given years back but in end the white always ends up winning, I do rate the variable version tho 

i’ve always just used normal mate a lot more runs using thermal then flicking lamp on 

[Ferretman65 2,206]

There's a good old lamp I used many moons ago 

[D Lloyd 2,790]

2 hours ago, Ferretman65 said:

There's a good old lamp I used many moons ago 

One of my first lamps had some fun with it and my greyhound years ago but I don't miss the battery hitting me in the Ribs evary time I had to run with it.