A question for you running dog lads

[Guest Dillon]

I have always worked with Lurchers but only really alongside terriers, therefore I have very limited experience with them,

With the season cracking up again and lads telling tales from before the ban, I was wondering which Deer you thought was the hardest to run.

 

Maybe its a question of the cleverest ! are any of the breeds of deer notoriously dumb ??

 

If you had the same sized field with the same escape routes and ran a Roe,Fallow,Sika,Red,Munty,CWD, which do you think would test your dog the most.

 

Cheers

Dillon

[lucky 578]

with one lurcher the hardest would be the big deer, the problem been the size weight and power, a lurcher would be stuggleing to stop one in full flight and bring it to the ground.

if i had had to pick one for speed and running ability alone i would say the roe, but i have'nt had much experience with the 2 smallest species of deer;)

[J Darcy 5,871]

luckily for me i have managed to run all six before the ban, in daytime and eerrmm.....evening... to put a list together you must thing...is it the most difficult to catch? or for the dog to make contact with?

for a dog to get up to (and based on the "best" of the species), from my limited experience: most difficult is roe, fallow, red,CWD, sika, munty....

now once a dog gets to his deer then all sorts of fun can begin.....reds are, in all intents and purposes, virtually impossible to take with a single dog....adult red in england..., then fallow take some stopping, they are powerful and strong ,and fast and they do not just "go over" like the smaller deer...i have seen big dogs being pulled up a field by a doe...and please dont think that just cos a dog is good on roe that it will flatten fallow, yes it may get one or two of the easy ones, but if it meets one that is a bit spirited then there will be trouble!!!!!...lol... sika are poweful, but seem to go over easier than the fallow....roe next, and i have had a few big bucks put up a fierce fight. then muntys, and these little toothy critters can really damage a dog.....you may be lucky and run a dog on them season after season and escape injury but one day the dog will feel the pain...i got 22 munty with scoob last season and practically all those were bucks, and he got spiked off of two or three of them..and he is a dog that is very rough handling them....these are just my opinions, and i could well be wrong..... :ph34r:

[DUCKWING 302]

WELL J D.

 

I COULDNT ARGUE WITH ANY OF THAT ................... THOUGH I HAVENT HAD ANY CWD ,

PERSONALLY IVE NEVER BEEN IMPRESSED BY DOGS TAKING DEER AND FROM A KID HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS JUST PART OF HAVING A DECENT DOG , MAYBE THAT WAS DUE TO KILLING ROE AND FALLOW BEFORE BECOMING A TEENAGER ,

I BELIVE DAYTIME ROE TAKE SOME STOPPING ON THE WHOLE .... THOUGH IN THE EVENING THEY MAKE MANY MISTAKES ON FENCE LINES THAT PROVES THERE DOWN FALL TO MANY AN OVER RATED DOG .

I HAVENT HAD A DOG TAKE RED SINGLEHANDED .................. BUT I KNOW A MAN THAT HAS ........ MANY TIMES ....SO IT CAN BE DONE !!, IT JUST NEEDS AN EXTRA SPECIAL ANIMAL

PROBABLY THE LARGEST IVE HAD SINGLEHANDED WAS A RED X SIKA STAG THAT WAS THAT BLOODY BIG I HAD TO GET HELP TO PULL HIM OFF THE HILL ......... AND I AINT NO BANTIE

 

 

ALL THE BEST DUCKWING

[J Darcy 5,871]

duckwing, would you mind me asking if it were an adult english red?

 

the CWD is a good run in the daytime and well worth the trip out to run one...if the ban ever got over-turned that is....this critter was the 18th on the bounce for scoob without missing,...but he missed the 19th totally my fault....ha ha

[J Darcy 5,871]

well WAZ, i hope you havent been poaching on my extensive permission. :ph34r: that would never do..... :11:

[DUCKWING 302]

YEP JD ,

 

ADULT REDSSSS ........... A COUPLE ENGLISH , MOSTLY NOT

 

 

ALL THE BEST DUCKWING

[Guest reload]

Roe buck fast than a hare, now now, come on!!

 

Daytime roe are truely a sporting quarry for one dog, lamped they are piss easy

[Guest Geordie]

Fek even izzy has caught hares,pre ban of course,but she aint pulled a roe,chased a few and they are a good at gettin away,see how she goes this season..........erm on the rabbits i mean :ph34r:

[Guest nastybilly]

its not the hares speed that works for it, its its ability to turn on a tanner and on a straight run imho a roes got that bit extra.

[jjbull 38]

if hares are faster than roe why do you give the hare fair law and not the roe a roe with a yard head start has gone

[Guest reload]

Maybe the answer to the question is there totally different quarry and run in a totally different style, its not about speed, as a winter hare is forsure a faster animal

 

Regarding the bigger stuff, never run them...., but roe deer can do the dumbest of things when under pressure, but other times they surprise you...

[Guest Dillon]

Hares !

Iv'e seen hundreds being run, with good dogs and bad dogs.

 

Deer I have not, and more than likely never will, I have limited time with work and prefer to concentrate on digging so its good to hear what you lads think.

 

Cheers

Dillon

[Guest chilli]

were u are will play a part in what your running were millet an peter are theres plenty of people afther the deer in that area but certain parts down south i dont think there many on them

[LDR 29]

Loki, whereabouts down south are you? i come from down south and there were more deer roaming around than we knew what to do with, we took deer everytime we ran them down there, up here in the north east i've ran only six last season and had one. Now the dog i have now is by far better than what i had back then, so is it a case of the deer are faster where you live or is it a case that in the north east lurcherwork is more common and therefore the deer have more experience of our 4 legged friends.......?