Bosun11 537 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, WILF said: I have no experience of them at all so I figured don’t get involved with something that’s a possible different story to anything else I have ever owned…..pride comes before a fall as they say. I honestly think that is the only way to go mate. Too many were/are bowed over by these 'big, tough' doggys and strive to own one, with little or no experience.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,261 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, Bosun11 said: I honestly think that is the only way to go mate. Too many were/are bowed over by these 'big, tough' doggys and strive to own one, with little or no experience.... Exactly mate, I wouldn’t own a spaniel either…..you have to know what types of dogs you get on with in my very humble opinion mate. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,261 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, downsouth said: Scaredy cat Realistic mate, I won’t be puffing my chest out when a bully with no outlet is taking my 8 year olds face off. I have between 2 and 4 kids kicking around for the last 20 years, why would I put a dog like that in their vicinity ?……it’s a no brainer to me pal 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 11,788 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, WILF said: I used to keep German/ Dutch Doberman’s and I have had EBTs and even a poxy staff (my wife’s when I met her ) over my lifetime, none of them ever bothered me and that’s even after my big dog Doberman went for a neck hold on me. Luckily I managed to lift my arm and jam that in his mouth so he bit that instead of my neck, never a bother. But a proper formula 1 pit dog is imho (and uneducated opinion) not something to be trifled with and if it don’t have an outlet for it’s nature then something is going to go wrong, and if it gos wrong it going very wrong indeed. Jmho they can be bad but i’d rather have to try dealing with one rather then one that’s mastiff in it aswell with the bull terrier mentality bigger stronger allround it’s a scary thought Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,261 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: they can be bad but i’d rather have to try dealing with one rather then one that’s mastiff in it aswell with the bull terrier mentality bigger stronger allround it’s a scary thought Different times for me mate, I was only a young man, no kids etc etc My big dog was man work trained so he had no problem setting about a human being. But it wasn’t a problem because I only had me to consider Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, WILF said: Exactly mate, I wouldn’t own a spaniel either…..you have to know what types of dogs you get on with in my very humble opinion mate. And that is admirable mate. Thing is, there are 'manny' dogs in just about every breed, especially in working dogs but NONE can match the devastation of a bull blood, no matter if its a pure bred working APBT or a scatterbred XL American Bully... And it's that that makes all the difference. Once upon a time we knew what lines of APBT carried those 'manny' traits and, as they were just working dogs, it sorta didn't matter... Fast forward to now, and those lines can be within any 'pet bull' you or I could buy as a 'family dog'.... Hey, and let's not forget adding shite ownership in that mix... For that, as much as anything else, is the problem... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,261 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Bosun11 said: And that is admirable mate. Thing is, there are 'manny' dogs in just about every breed, especially in working dogs but NONE can match the devastation of a bull blood, no matter if its a pure bred working APBT or a scatterbred XL American Bully... And it's that that makes all the difference. Once upon a time we knew what lines of APBT carried those 'manny' traits and, as they were just working dogs, it sorta didn't matter... Fast forward to now, and those lines can be within any 'pet bull' you or I could buy as a 'family dog'.... Hey, and let's not forget adding shite ownership in that mix... For that, as much as anything else, is the problem... I think you hit the nail on the head with that word “devastation”……that’s it in a nut shell. Its the difference between your kid getting a bite on the hand or it’s arm pulled off. jmho mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 7,092 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 5 hours ago, WILF said: Realistic mate, I won’t be puffing my chest out when a bully with no outlet is taking my 8 year olds face off. I have between 2 and 4 kids kicking around for the last 20 years, why would I put a dog like that in their vicinity ?……it’s a no brainer to me pal You know I was joking pal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,261 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 hours ago, downsouth said: You know I was joking pal I know that mate, of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,745 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 11 hours ago, WILF said: I used to keep German/ Dutch Doberman’s and I have had EBTs and even a poxy staff (my wife’s when I met her ) over my lifetime, none of them ever bothered me and that’s even after my big dog Doberman went for a neck hold on me. Luckily I managed to lift my arm and jam that in his mouth so he bit that instead of my neck, never a bother. But a proper formula 1 pit dog is imho (and uneducated opinion) not something to be trifled with and if it don’t have an outlet for it’s nature then something is going to go wrong, and if it gos wrong it going very wrong indeed. Jmho Pedestrian Has Arms Amputated After Attack From 3 Dogs; Owner Charged: Reports – Crime Online Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,949 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 13 hours ago, WILF said: I wouldn’t have the outlet for a dog like that mate, and a dog with not outlet is an accident waiting to happen imho I meant in regards to your " beyond my capabilities " comment......yes you could handle a pit bull,but absolutely....doesnt mean you should 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,949 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 12 hours ago, Bosun11 said: I honestly think that is the only way to go mate. Too many were/are bowed over by these 'big, tough' doggys and strive to own one, with little or no experience.... Ive always compared it to an idiotic immature 17 year old going out buying a Ferrari,in theory he can,but finances/insurance etc make it difficult to do..... but he can buy an equally dangerous dog with no such difficulties. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,949 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 13 hours ago, mC HULL said: how do you break if they trying to set about you constantly A manny dog kept specifically for sport you are not going to try to break to anything its just a daily grind of managing to avoid situations....a dog i mentioned earlier i had for 3 months without incident yet he wanted to tear my limbs off daily.....after a hard session i could rub him down from nose to tail as he was too exhausted to care but guarantee that same dog next morning fully refreshed would be looking to drag me away and eat me and so the whole process starts again.....to feed a true man biter you must have a serious love for the breed in my opinion. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,013 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 12 hours ago, WILF said: Exactly mate, I wouldn’t own a spaniel either…..you have to know what types of dogs you get on with in my very humble opinion mate. I tried a spaniel ..never again! No need or desire for a pit type dog, I really like the EBTs and Staffies that I have been around over the years, but again no desire to own one of them either... I've absolutely no idea why anyone would want a large and potentially aggressive breed as a house pet, well I do know why and as often proven the result is a disaster! Properly bred dogs of this type will need stimulation beyond a quick walk around the block... its madness that people shove them in a house with kids and the manic type environment that brings .... terrible for the child and dog 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,013 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 12 hours ago, WILF said: Realistic mate, I won’t be puffing my chest out when a bully with no outlet is taking my 8 year olds face off. I have between 2 and 4 kids kicking around for the last 20 years, why would I put a dog like that in their vicinity ?……it’s a no brainer to me pal Bang on mate.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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