Lurcher beats full greyhounds in race

[Francie 6,368]

42 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

No, they don't all use longdogs; I'll give you just four examples out of many.......there was a lad I know very well, used to be a member on here, who won almost every big lurcher race in the UK and Ireland with his 1/6th collie x 15/16th greyhounds.

And how about Markbrick ? He won countless races with his collie/Greyhound/whippets.

Or Geoff Fletcher with his Beddy/greys ?

Taysider off here won the Scottish Championship with his beddy/Whippet/grey.

As I said, your technically right with your "longdog" v "lurcher", but you're telling us something we already know

Cheers.

Thank you for clearing that up charts,

 

[chartpolski 24,574]

Just now, Francie said:

Thank you for clearing that up charts,

 

I can only speak from experience, others may be more experienced, and I'll respect their views and opinions

Cheers.

[tatsblisters 10,296]

I had never heard of the term longdog until i read Walshes book when it first came out in the 70s .

[poxon 5,768]

I’ve seen loads of times at country show racing we’re someone has turned up with a straight greyhound blagging it as a lurcher saying it’s 1/16 bred so technically it’s a lurcher when in fact it’s a pure but there trying to deceive people. They don’t like it when there still beaten by a lurcher I’ve upset a couple of people with my old bitch she was a flying machine in the overs I only used to enter to do the odd race event when I felt I could be bothered but my bitches daughter done a fantastic job at pissing people off that thought they’d turn up with a straight greyhound or purpose bred racer at lurcher events I used to love it  seeing people getting all bitchy that a working dog was dusting them in the racing an then in the show ring 

[stevemac 442]

10 hours ago, Francie said:

It isn't a full grey either what would you call it?

A long dog good on ya by the way. Deerhound was often added to greyhound lines here in Australia back in the early part of last century before registration became so strict for track dogs. The second cross back to the greyhound was the ducks guts feed coursing back when it was sanctioned.

[tatsblisters 10,296]

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

There's been non-ped whippets such as Memphis Belle and Loves Lockdown, that have beaten greyhounds and broken track records at Greyhound tracks, but to be fair, they have a fair bit of Greyhound in them and are almost as big as greyhounds. Also it's usually the sprint distance , 270-300 yards they win over, not the longer distances.

I remember matching a non-ped Whippet, Robbo, (Bilko x Frozen Kill ), against a Greyhound, over 150 yards on a whippet track and winning by about two yards. Emboldened, I was then suckered in to a return match over 270 yards at a Greyhound track for a far larger bet.

The Whippet led up to the first bend then the Greyhound took over and won easily! Ahh, well, I was young but soon learned ! !

There are whippets, lurchers and long dogs that have beaten greyhounds, but they are the exception rather than the rule, a good Greyhound will beat any other type of dog normally

Cheers.

I won a few quid on my mate Dave Sleights' dog wild boy at Highgate a few year back that was quarter whippet that run regular on the flapping tracks.

[OldPhil 5,811]

 I've mostly kept jukels for the ferreting/netting job, and I try to keep the dogs nice and quiet, and well in control of their emotions...

I rarely attend lurcher shows or Game Fairs, but at the ones I have visited, the racing or (stimulated coursing as my old pal Daergi used to call it ) the frenzied barking and frequently manic behaviour, of both dogs and their owners,.. reminded me of that crazy Fly Ball carry on, at Crufts...

Racing and Hunting, are obviously different disciplines and I've enjoyed participating in both,...but, I know which path I would always choose...

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 26, 2022 by OldPhil

[Astanley 11,580]

Admittedly the waters can get a bit muddied ...but broadly speaking I have got to agree with the hamster ,in my mind there is a distinct difference betwixt  lurchers  and longdogs ,temperament ,performance and function ,,there are exceptions ,there are mixed up breedings and there are similarities (they are all running dogs after all )....having said that ,I don't know why I'm commenting on the subject because I really couldn't give less of a fuk about it .

[Samrog 443]

31 minutes ago, OldPhil said:

 I've mostly kept jukels for the ferreting/netting job, and I try to keep the dogs nice and quiet, and well in control of their emotions...

I rarely attend lurcher shows or Game Fairs, but at the ones I have visited, the racing or (stimulated coursing as my old pal Daergi used to call it ) the frenzied barking and frequently manic behaviour, of both dogs and their owners,.. reminded me of that crazy Fly Ball carry on, at Crufts...

Racing and Hunting, are obviously different disciplines and I've enjoyed participating in both,...but, I know which path I would always choose...

 

 

 

cracking photo, what do you use to take photos?

[shaaark 10,917]

19 minutes ago, Samrog said:

cracking photo, what do you use to take photos?

   at a guess

[SheepChaser 8,089]

It’s amazing what folk will argue about on here.

Also I personally think the man who took the 15/16th grey all over the country to beat bull xs and other Lurchers in the fun Lurcher racing at shows was a bit of a sad human being.

Tin hat on  

[OldPhil 5,811]

Hi Sam, I am certainly no photographer...I have an ancient Nikon camera, and I just keep on clicking away,... living in hopes of a victory

 

 

Edited March 26, 2022 by OldPhil

[jukel123 8,657]

I like the odd lurcher show just for looking at the dogs and a bit of craic. I've never bothered with showing or racing.

Wouldn't a savvy lurcher refuse to chase a lure knowing its not the real thing? Or even cut corners and intercept the lure?

[chartpolski 24,574]

6 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

It’s amazing what folk will argue about on here.

Also I personally think the man who took the 15/16th grey all over the country to beat bull xs and other Lurchers in the fun Lurcher racing at shows was a bit of a sad human being.

Tin hat on  

I agree entirely !

I was simply pointing out that all racers aren't longdogs.

Lurcher racing isn't fun these days, it's extremely competitive with some very lucrative money and prizes on offer, especially in the big Irish game fairs, and, just as in whippet and Greyhound racing, cheating rears its ugly head.

Cheers.

[jukel123 8,657]

Running a full grey or a heavily saturated grey in a lurcher race seems like an able bodied athlete competing in the paralympics to me. Or a transgender male competing with women.