I have succumbed.....

[Dervburner 2,549]

31 minutes ago, philpot said:

I had some feed back today that Norma is not good but as you say every barrel is different although our firearms specialist rfd says V-Max is by far their biggest seller for hmr.   RWS produce a superb wmr round but have no feedback on an hmr round either performance or availability.   First test will be Hornady V-Max as they are easily available but just checking Forest Lodge site, they sell Norma, Winchester, CCI, Remington, Federal and of course Hornady so my pal and myself may well buy a few different ones to try.

Phil

 

Best idea Phil. A box of each and you can see which you’re barrel prefers. My cz .17 is ok with everything except Winchester, it doesn’t like those.edit to say, I wish I was going to forest lodge, haven’t been for ages. Love that shop but it’s a bit far for me

Edited February 25, 2022 by Dervburner

[villaman 9,982]

I believe RWS make federal . 
had to many miss fires with hornady and not that accurate either 50 mm group at 100 yards 

[FLATTOP 4,635]

Remingtons 17g V max for me and I’ve shot thousands of rounds through my barrel it is the varmint heavy 452 accurate today as it was when I first bought it over 12 years ago, in my opinion there a very flexible tool for a variety of jobs. 

[philpot 5,054]

Just looked and RWS are not showing ammo for hmr which is strange as they make wmr ammo, I still have some.

Phil

[Sausagedog 7,381]

As far as I am aware only cci and Winchester make hmr ammo.

It is quite unique.  It requires special machinery to neck the primed case for the bullet. The process work hardens the brass that can not be annealed after the work due to the priming. It is what causes the split necks sometimes.

It would take alot of investment  of RWS to make an hmr line.

[philpot 5,054]

4 hours ago, Sausagedog said:

As far as I am aware only cci and Winchester make hmr ammo.

It is quite unique.  It requires special machinery to neck the primed case for the bullet. The process work hardens the brass that can not be annealed after the work due to the priming. It is what causes the split necks sometimes.

It would take alot of investment  of RWS to make an hmr line.

I thought Hornady were manufacturing their own as I recall that seemed to be the ammo that had the least amount of issues when a few years ago there were big problems with hmr rounds causing damage to the barrels on occassions.

[villaman 9,982]

5 hours ago, philpot said:

Just looked and RWS are not showing ammo for hmr which is strange as they make wmr ammo, I still have some.

Phil

Just had a look RWS make Norma which includes 17 HMR and not federal, but federal make their own 

[philpot 5,054]

19 minutes ago, villaman said:

Just had a look RWS make Norma which includes 17 HMR and not federal, but federal make their own 

Strange they don't have them in their own name Mitch as I really rate RWS subs and mags.

 

[villaman 9,982]

2 minutes ago, philpot said:

Strange they don't have them in their own name Mitch as I really rate RWS subs and mags.

 

Can’t fault .22 Norma or 17 HMR  like I said RWS 

[villaman 9,982]

Haven’t had a split case with Norma 17 or federal. Just a shame the Norma were expensive about £23 per 50 and federal £15 per 50 

you will love HMR Phil 

[Sausagedog 7,381]

Sorry guys, looks like I am out of date.

.17 HMR - Wikipedia

EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

[villaman 9,982]

Federal have a F stamped on them and Norma have RWS stamped on them . I know cci and federal are under vista outdoors group 

Federal Premium Ammunition - Wikipedia

EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

[philpot 5,054]

I know Federal is a massive brand in the US so they will go on the list.  Not a lover of CCI generally so they will be a last resort.  I think it is also down to what we can get hold of and whilst we have two main rfd shops we go to, it will be either from them or not at all as I am guessing it is such a pain to get firearm ammo in small quantities from a mail order source if posssible.

Phil

[Sausagedog 7,381]

Even on a windy day HMR can deliver.

[philpot 5,054]

Shooting corvids, a great passion of mine and had not thought of using the hmr for that but at distance, that could be good fun.  I took a few out yesterday with my air / fac in the wind, very satisfying.  Does the wind cause issues for hmr, I never found it a real problem with wmr but have heard hmr being bad in the wind however of course I have no personal knowledge.........yet.

Phil