Farmer shoots, hunting trespasser

[tinytiger 840]

25 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

would you expect anything else ? 

 

No,(this is the legal expert, who decided  that varadker hadn't  broken  the law when  he  did (passing confidential  documents  to  his  bum buddies ). Looking  after  each other (how Ireland works)

[tinytiger 840]

15 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

Noticed in the link it mentions badger baiting ffs I dare bet if that was what the prosecution used it would have massively swayed the jury's decision to return a not guilty verdict. I think it would have been the same outcome in a British court tbh. 

Showed  jury videos  off guys phone,  probably  from another  day .I'd imagine there would  have  been lots of  objections  if the coke tramps  slutty photos had been  included  in  evidence  in the  mcgregor  rpe  trial. Going  for a murder  rather  than a manslaughter  conviction in the first  place  was suspicious 

[tatsblisters 9,829]

1 minute ago, tinytiger said:

Showed  jury videos  off guys phone,  probably  from another  day .I'd imagine there would  have  been lots of  objections  if the coke tramps  slutty photos had been  included  in  evidence  in the  mcgregor  rpe  trial. Going  for a murder  rather  than a manslaughter  conviction in the first  place  was suspicious 

I honestly thought the lad and his family would have got justice with it happening in Ireland unlike if it had happened in the UK the verdict would have been no surprise. 

[WILF 46,963]

I think there is something just as important at play here…..

No, a man don’t deserve to die for being out hunting….of course he don’t.

However, Ireland is still one of the few places where it is regarded as a right to defend yourself against unwanted intruders into your property and that means with a weapon of you have one….

And I think almost everyone would agree with that right ?

Back of the nut, I understand it’s a dodgy one but at the end of the day it’s still 3 grown men on another man’s property that they shouldn’t be on and no doubt the situation was volatile and aggressive…..moral of the story is, if the blokes got a rifle and a pistol and he has just shot your dog….just say sorry and f**k off as quick as possible with your life intact. 

[mackem 26,616]

I watched a news reports and week or so ago,the policeman actually says on TV if you commit a burglary in florida expect to be shot.

Suspect shot & killed after homeowner opens fire during home invasion: 'You should expect to be shot'

WWW.FOX13NEWS.COM

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A man opened fire on two home invaders on Thursday night, shooting one who later died as the other ran...

 

[tatsblisters 9,829]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

I think there is something just as important at play here…..

No, a man don’t deserve to die for being out hunting….of course he don’t.

However, Ireland is still one of the few places where it is regarded as a right to defend yourself against unwanted intruders into your property and that means with a weapon of you have one….

And I think almost everyone would agree with that right ?

Back of the nut, I understand it’s a dodgy one but at the end of the day it’s still 3 grown men on another man’s property that they shouldn’t be on and no doubt the situation was volatile and aggressive…..moral of the story is, if the blokes got a rifle and a pistol and he has just shot your dog….just say sorry and f**k off as quick as possible with your life intact. 

Agree to a degree mate especially when being in confrontations regarding trespassing with dogs and flight is always a better outcome confronting those with guns if you are in the wrong. I knew a keeper who shot a poacher stone dead and as there was only them two in the confrontation it was his side of the incident that only got heard in the court and he was found not guilty though i do think it helped his defence that he was a keeper for the Duke of Norfolk who no doubt would have got the best legal team available and this case by the sounds of it has helped this individual walk due to his connections with in the legal profession as well as the jury been swayed by the lads activities regarding dog work. It's just my take on it at the end of the day and it's sad a lad has lost his life. 

[littlefish 586]

Sad outcome for the guy who got shot.  However, over the years on this forum, I found it disconcerting the number of people who stated the would set fire to every house, barn, vehicle, animal, etc of any farmer/landowner who got in their way.

[Daniel cain 45,527]

I think personally He Should of shot the f***ing lot of em,and rolled them in a hole...you go about threatening people,your gonna do this/do that on their property/house/land/family be prepared for when you push the wrong person to far...there will always be consequences....if someone pulls a shooter out and points it at you, regardless of if they start popping shots out...then you move as fast as you can,get from there sharpish...shooting the dog should of been enough,they should of apologised and walked away to fight another day..

No different imo to what happened to Tony Martin....only so much a man can take....when cnuts keep pushing you

[tinytiger 840]

16 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

I think personally He Should of shot the f***ing lot of em,and rolled them in a hole...you go about threatening people,your gonna do this/do that on their property/house/land/family be prepared for when you push the wrong person to far...there will always be consequences....if someone pulls a shooter out and points it at you, regardless of if they start popping shots out...then you move as fast as you can,get from there sharpish...shooting the dog should of been enough,they should of apologised and walked away to fight another day..

No different imo to what happened to Tony Martin....only so much a man can take....when cnuts keep pushing you

Was Tony  Martin  a  senior  counsel  and golfing  buddies  with  the  judge.? Badger baiting shouldn't  have  been  allowed  to  be  mentioned  in  the  trial. (Unless they  had killed 1 that day,on phelans land).All an effort  to  blacken the deceaseds name in the eyes of the (presumably anti) jury.

[Borr 6,103]

4 minutes ago, tinytiger said:

Was Tony  Martin  a  senior  counsel  and golfing  buddies  with  the  judge.? Badger baiting shouldn't  have  been  allowed  to  be  mentioned  in  the  trial. (Unless they  had killed 1 that day,on phelans land).All an effort  to  blacken the deceaseds name in the eyes of the (presumably anti) jury.

Tony Martin had the support of the majority of British people I believe , I think if it was legal to shoot burglars there would be far less of it especially on farms and small businesses. 

[mackem 26,616]

4 minutes ago, Borr said:

Tony Martin had the support of the majority of British people I believe , I think if it was legal to shoot burglars there would be far less of it especially on farms and small businesses. 

Some on here i wouldn't trust with a peashooter,lol,but your post reminded me of this.

 

[Borr 6,103]

8 minutes ago, mackem said:

Some on here i wouldn't trust with a peashooter,lol,but your post reminded me of this.

 

I thought the cops were gonna shoot him in the end . Fair play got some balls. But in the land of home invasion , common for kidnap and  abductions . Car jacking etc I think you've got to have that mindset. The wealthy can avoid a lot of it in gated communities etc. my Oldman had an American friend from him time in Saudi , a Floridian, who slept with a loaded shotgun under the bed and apparently killed an intruder, he gifted me a gold chain as a kid which was taken in a burglary when I lived in Wales broad daylight. 

[paul sr 810]

3 hours ago, WILF said:

I think there is something just as important at play here…..

No, a man don’t deserve to die for being out hunting….of course he don’t.

However, Ireland is still one of the few places where it is regarded as a right to defend yourself against unwanted intruders into your property and that means with a weapon of you have one….

And I think almost everyone would agree with that right ?

Back of the nut, I understand it’s a dodgy one but at the end of the day it’s still 3 grown men on another man’s property that they shouldn’t be on and no doubt the situation was volatile and aggressive…..moral of the story is, if the blokes got a rifle and a pistol and he has just shot your dog….just say sorry and f**k off as quick as possible with your life intact. 

If he had being charged with manslaughter , the verdict may have being different . A lot off sheep farmers will shoot any dog they see on there land .

[Daniel cain 45,527]

31 minutes ago, tinytiger said:

Was Tony  Martin  a  senior  counsel  and golfing  buddies  with  the  judge.? Badger baiting shouldn't  have  been  allowed  to  be  mentioned  in  the  trial. (Unless they  had killed 1 that day,on phelans land).All an effort  to  blacken the deceaseds name in the eyes of the (presumably anti) jury.

I've always been of the firm belief,that if your gonna go about threatening folk ,I'm gonna stab/shot/f**k you up,then you best be able to back it up there and then.... because only a f***ing maggot goes back and does stuff on the sly....you never know how someone will react when put in a life and death situation...that's why,when you meet/go to new places you afford the people some sort of respect.. because manners cost f**k all... them fellas was in the wrong full stop...

 

 

 

 

 

[paul sr 810]

If you want to hunt on someones land seek permission . If you get permission ,always let the land owner know before you are about to go on the land to hunt and leave a note on the dash of your vehicle ,saying your are hunting and your phone number . All ways get written permission and have hunting insurance .