kanny 20,628 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Though socialist is in their name, they weren't strictly socialists, in fact if I'm not mistaken Hitler explicitly hated 'socialists'. Nazism embraced the sort of socialist beliefs of everyone chipping in for the good of all (the state), but they killed people considered weak, lol. Socialists help the weak, sometimes to their detriment. The sort of socialism the Nazi's embraced was absolutely typical of nationalism, which most wouldn't consider socialists. This really just highlights how erroneous a one dimensional (left/right) theory of politics is. This is possibly more helpful, but is still simplified. Socialism is like veganism, everyone fails because they didn't do it right 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KimE 487 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 17 hours ago, Nicepix said: Putin is playing mind games. All that is needed to sort this out is for NATO to start building up troop numbers in Alaska, just outside Russia's back door. He will soon have the military marching west at a quick step. Trouble is, in Europe they are all in his payroll. The Germans are scared of having the gas cut off and their ex Chancellor is on the pipeline company's board of directors. Their total contribution to the Ukraine military is 5,000 helmets. And America has a lame duck President. Germany are setting up funds for Ukraine its more important than military equipment as forain company/money are pulling out of Ukraine. UK has Russians in the parlament, members of the royal family are entertaining russian oligarcs. Sweden has an Aluminium plant owned by a russian oligarc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, KimE said: Germany are setting up funds for Ukraine its more important than military equipment as forain company/money are pulling out of Ukraine. UK has Russians in the parlament, members of the royal family are entertaining russian oligarcs. Sweden has an Aluminium plant owned by a russian oligarc. Germany are only belatedly getting involved after a public outcry. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,089 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 15 hours ago, WILF said: It’s a very old book but “The Scourge of the Swastika” is a very good read brother. However, I don’t believe you can look at the holocaust in isolation as much as the “victors” have always wanted us too and that is what is promoted. No, you have to look at how we arrive at the holocaust !!…..that’s the important bit, it’s the bit I don’t think they want you to look at. I see a lot of parallels in modern European (and American and lately Canadian) government policy that compare with what gave rise to national socialism and the eradication of a race of people who were seen as very much part of the problem. As I have said before, Germany didn’t just have 200,000 psychotic beasts sitting about waiting to be unleashed on the world…..no, these were normal blokes who couldn’t see a way out (sound familiar ?) And what is more, as much as everyone post war “hated the Nazis”, did they f**k…..Germany and Hitler and his ideals had massive support throughout Europe. You can see this mildly played out now when a Russian basically dictator is seen as the most common sense option by many (my self included)…..this is the first time in my lifetime where I think there would be a lot of European people on Putins side. Theres no way that would have been the case 30 years ago. The storm clouds are brewing, the left wing fanatics won’t go down without a very dirty and very bitter fight (as we are seeing so wonderfully demonstrated by Trudeau in Canada….Marshall law invoked for a peaceful protests ?) Hard to disagree with this but you have to remember the real reason Jews were vilified. 5-600 years ago they were the money lenders and kings and emperors were in debt! Same thing happened with the Templars! 15 hours ago, JDHUNTING said: Thought it had all kicked off here earlier when there was what felt like an earthquake!! (West Lancs) Old fashioned street fighter sonic boom 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,089 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Born Hunter said: Though socialist is in their name, they weren't strictly socialists, in fact if I'm not mistaken Hitler explicitly hated 'socialists'. Nazism embraced the sort of socialist beliefs of everyone chipping in for the good of all (the state), but they killed people considered weak, lol. Socialists help the weak, sometimes to their detriment. The sort of socialism the Nazi's embraced was absolutely typical of nationalism, which most wouldn't consider socialists. This really just highlights how erroneous a one dimensional (left/right) theory of politics is. This is possibly more helpful, but is still simplified. A fuucking Gartner quadrant? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,776 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, KimE said: Germany are setting up funds for Ukraine its more important than military equipment as forain company/money are pulling out of Ukraine. UK has Russians in the parlament, members of the royal family are entertaining russian oligarcs. Sweden has an Aluminium plant owned by a russian oligarc. I expect a bank full of digital currency is of great comfort to a post invasion insurgency faced with divisions of enemy armour in their country. The thousands of anti tank weapons, MANPADs, and secure comms delivered by US/UK won't be of much use I expect.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 The Holocaust is kept in the public's eyes by Jewish propoganda. I agree with Chart's summary of the cause of it, but similar atrocities have been committed against Jews since written records began. You have to ask yourself why? Also, don't forget that after WW2 Stalin bartered with the West for a Soviet for a Ally prisoner of war entailing that the Allies had to forcibly return any Soviets and that included many Poles and other Central or Eastern European prisonersto be sent to Russia in return for Allied POWs being released from camps in the areas the Russians controlled. Any Russian who was returned along with tens of thousands of Germans and other nationalities were sent to labour camps to stop them reporting what life was like in the west to other Russians. In the German invasion of Russia many more Russians were killed than Jews in the concentration camps. Many more Chinese were massacred by Japanese troops than Jews killed in the Holocaust. But nobody keeps their story alive. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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THE STIFFMEISTER 16,084 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 20 hours ago, kanny said: 'Earthquake' that shook Merseyside confirmed as sonic boom - Liverpool Echo WWW.LIVERPOOLECHO.CO.UK BAE confirmed the noise reported in the Southport area was a supersonic boom It was the cupboard door slamming from where all the koppites have been hiding the last 30 years 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,081 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 More western hype shite we are learning... There away home FFS... Lol...suppose it took the shine of the nonce paying out of 12 million..dirty nonce cxnt but I always knew it... If it was me and was INNOCENT... I'd be pushing to get to court. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,642 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 All smoke and mirrors.... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gamerooster 1,179 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 The Russians haven't gone anywhere, still surrounding the border. All it'll take is one American to be killed.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 8 hours ago, gamerooster said: The Russians haven't gone anywhere, still surrounding the border. All it'll take is one American to be killed.... Iv read that the Russians are pulling back from the border,it was a training exercise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,956 Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 They've just moved another 7,000 troops to the Ukraine border. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,081 Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, chartpolski said: They've just moved another 7,000 troops to the Ukraine border. Cheers. What media is reporting this ? 7000 troops.. lol been to bigger raves FS. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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