hambone 950 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: turkey is part of nato I know that FFS. I was using that as an example of how long a country can wait for something if it cant tick the right boxes on the application form. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elchapo 3,166 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, mC HULL said: nato should of given guarantees that ukraine aren’t joining nato it’s not hard to do it’s nato doing what they said they wouldn’t decades ago And do you think that would of stopped russia from invading?? Nato giving guarantee ...I dout it , and nato should do something about it , all this sitting back and having nothing to do with it attitude happend along time ago and when people did start standing up to tyrantsand doing something about it we were balls deep in a world war , , Granted it probably won't get that far but as the saying goes for the triumph of evil all it takes is for good men to do nothing The choice of Ukraine wanting to join nato is down to Ukraine not Russia, its supposed to be there choice, not down to Russia even if it is there neighbours, would you Ave your neighbours telling you wat do , You'd soon tell them fuxk off if They said you can't keep sand slugs and got run fat useless bull x wouldn't you lol 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,471 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, mC HULL said: i don’t like china putin is a better leader than we have usa i don’t like to be honest constantly at war all the time every corner of the world I've referred to the term "the great game" a few times, it's now known as "real politik". Its all about a balance, the ying and the yang. When America retreats into an "America first" mode, the world panics ! Who's going to protect democracy ? A powerful America keeps the bad guys in check; Saddam found out with "shock and awe" when he got over confident. A weak America emboldens not only Russia and China but the likes of Iran and North Korea to threaten their neighbours. Yes, of course we got it wrong in Iraq, I thought Saddam should have been controlled, not defeated, and Afghanistan was a clusterfuck, we didn't learn from history. But at the end of the day, I'd rather live in an American or British "democracy" than a Russian dictatorship or a Communist China. Id rather live in a country where the Prime Minister is guilty of having an illegal glass of wine and a packet of crisps than a country where they can "dissapear" you for having an alternative view. Hey Ho, what the f**k, I've lived a long and very full life, I hope you young'uns have the same ! ! Cheers. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,436 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Elchapo said: And do you think that would of stopped russia from invading?? Nato giving guarantee ...I dout it , and nato should do something about it , all this sitting back and having nothing to do with it attitude happend along time ago and when people did start standing up to tyrantsand doing something about it we were balls deep in a world war , , Granted it probably won't get that far but as the saying goes for the triumph of evil all it takes is for good men to do nothing The choice of Ukraine wanting to join nato is down to Ukraine not Russia, its supposed to be there choice, not down to Russia even if it is there neighbours, would you Ave your neighbours telling you wat do , You'd soon tell them fuxk off if They said you can't keep sand slugs and got run fat useless bull x wouldn't you lol russia wouldn’t of invaded ukraine in 2014 backed by the west ukraine forced the president out a coup what happened to the the good people doing something when us and usa slaughtered millions of civilians in iraq and afghanistan ? why was the usa ready to go to war with the ussr for putting missiles in cuba ? surely it’s up to cuba what they do ? Edited February 24, 2022 by mC HULL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,436 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, chartpolski said: I've referred to the term "the great game" a few times, it's now known as "real politik". Its all about a balance, the ying and the yang. When America retreats into an "America first" mode, the world panics ! Who's going to protect democracy ? A powerful America keeps the bad guys in check; Saddam found out with "shock and awe" when he got over confident. A weak America emboldens not only Russia and China but the likes of Iran and North Korea to threaten their neighbours. Yes, of course we got it wrong in Iraq, I thought Saddam should have been controlled, not defeated, and Afghanistan was a clusterfuck, we didn't learn from history. But at the end of the day, I'd rather live in an American or British "democracy" than a Russian dictatorship or a Communist China. Id rather live in a country where the Prime Minister is guilty of having an illegal glass of wine and a packet of crisps than a country where they can "dissapear" you for having an alternative view. Hey Ho, what the f**k, I've lived a long and very full life, I hope you young'uns have the same ! ! Cheers. cracking post charts but i’d rather be in russia hunting what i liked without it been illegal to feed your self off the land we’re getting worse and worse in this country 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,538 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Well I've just come indoors from feeding my foxy friends, away from reality for a few fleeting moments, to what yet more gloom doom, first covid, now this, well so have I lead a full and active life, I still am fulling, but the way the worlds going, like I've said before I wouldn't lose any sleep if I woke up in the morning heaving wi maggots well I'm going to do missen a bacon sarnie now then get my head down, so I will bid thee all goodnight, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,471 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, mC HULL said: cracking post charts but i’d rather be in russia hunting what i liked without it been illegal to feed your self off the land we’re getting worse and worse in this country You run hares, I can do that every day of the week, as you do, without too much hassle. The Communists in Russia, like Hitler, banned hunting, and the working Borzoi almost died out in Russia. Ive travelled the world, and loved every minute, but I don't believe the grass is allways greener on the other side. Im quite pissed off at the way things are going in the UK at the moment, but I remember the 50's living in a slum, then the great days of the 60's , then the Ted Heath days, the winter of discontent, the three day week, then the 80'sand the miners strikes, but all in all, life's far better here and now than in the past. You have my absolute support in questioning and opposing the ruling clique, but allways remember, you have the right to do that........you wouldn't have that right in Russia or China. Cheers. 9 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,436 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, mushroom said: ussr was the russia empire governed by the communist party in russia it’s like saying if texas went to governing it self it was never american isn’t it Edited February 24, 2022 by mC HULL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,436 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, chartpolski said: You run hares, I can do that every day of the week, as you do, without too much hassle. The Communists in Russia, like Hitler, banned hunting, and the working Borzoi almost died out in Russia. Ive travelled the world, and loved every minute, but I don't believe the grass is allways greener on the other side. Im quite pissed off at the way things are going in the UK at the moment, but I remember the 50's living in a slum, then the great days of the 60's , then the Ted Heath days, the winter of discontent, the three day week, then the 80'sand the miners strikes, but all in all, life's far better here and now than in the past. You have my absolute support in questioning and opposing the ruling clique, but allways remember, you have the right to do that........you wouldn't have that right in Russia or China. Cheers. communists fascists all ban hunting now we have irritates me ive been a few different spots around the world always happy to be home if i’m honest but the uk is definitely going down the wrong path Edited February 24, 2022 by mC HULL 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,083 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 As much as we might moan about the state of our country and it’s shitty government, the fact that we can do so without fear is one major reason why it’s not actually so bad. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,903 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mC HULL said: ussr was the russia empire governed by the communist party in russia it’s like saying if texas went to governing it self it was never american isn’t it Fuuck me you’re on a roll there pal… All US states have their own governments and laws. Federal law covers all states in matters of a Federal nature. Moving drugs or other illegal substances across state lines. Postal fraud etc. You really need to educate yourself. So if Texas was to devolve it would basically do away with federal laws. Edited February 24, 2022 by mushroom 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,436 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, mushroom said: Fuuck me you’re on a roll there pal… All US states have their own governments and laws. Federal law covers all states in matters of a Federal nature. Moving drugs or other illegal substances across state lines. Postal fraud etc. You really need to educate yourself. So if Texas was to devolve it would basically do away with federal laws. so if it became a country of its own the country of texas it was never american ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,471 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, mushroom said: Fuuck me you’re on a roll there pal… All US states have their own governments and laws. Federal law covers all states in matters of a Federal nature. Moving drugs or other illegal substances across state lines. Postal fraud etc. You really need to educate yourself. So if Texas was to devolve it would basically do away with federal laws. Hey ! Stay out of it ! He's my project, difficult yes, a challenge yes, but I'm in it for the long haul ! I see something in him that I can nurture and educate to my way of thinking. You getting involved will only confuse matters ! ! Cheers. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,903 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: so if it became a country of its own the country of texas it was never american ? A part of the union yes. The clue is in the fuucking name USA. Texans will never be Calis. Just like Ukrainians will never be Russians because they were only connected by? Yep, a union in this case the Soviet UNION 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 950 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Hey ! Stay out of it ! He's my project, difficult yes, a challenge yes, but I'm in it for the long haul ! I see something in him that I can nurture and educate to my way of thinking. You getting involved will only confuse matters ! ! Cheers. I think you may have your work cut out. 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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