hawki 1,431 Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 tic tock.....only a matter of time BBC prepares secret scripts for possible use in winter blackouts | BBC | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Exclusive: Scripts set out how corporation will reassure public in event of major power loss 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Born Hunter 17,775 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 A significant change in the RAF's current operations; signals intelligence flights have been routine around Ukraine, but the most recent one over the Black Sea was escorted by Typhoons... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,840 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Apparently Russia has taken out a third of Ukraine's power supplies....two people died. That's good going only killing 2 in all those infrastructure attacks. UK and America killed hundreds in similar strikes in Afghanistan . At least Putin hasn't poured 9 million gallons of bio weapons on civilians like America did in Vietnam eh. All this talk of nuclear threat from Putin. If Putin wanted to, or had to escalate things he would attack the weapons supply routes into Ukraine. Let's be honest he would have every right to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 56 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: Apparently Russia has taken out a third of Ukraine's power supplies....two people died. That's good going only killing 2 in all those infrastructure attacks. UK and America killed hundreds in similar strikes in Afghanistan . It might have changed now but last I looked, in comparable timeframe the casualty rate was about the same. Only difference being the Yanks actually achieved the objectives of their invasion phases and within a truly expeditionary scenario, not a next door neighbour invasion. 1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said: At least Putin hasn't poured 9 million gallons of bio weapons on civilians like America did in Vietnam eh. I'm not sure it would change anything for you if he did. 1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said: All this talk of nuclear threat from Putin. If Putin wanted to, or had to escalate things he would attack the weapons supply routes into Ukraine. Let's be honest he would have every right to. I agree. But 'right' doesn't really come in to it. It's about what is accepted by the other side. Every move has a cost/benefit. As with the intelligence flights, which have no doubt been absolutely critical to Ukraine's planning, the RAF at least have just demonstrated their resolve to defend them. Would that extend to aid... That's the decision Putin is making, not whether or not he has the moral high ground. Tbh I'm not sure if those supply lines are at serious risk, but it was certainly a concern they would be shut down by Russia in the early days, which suggests to me, back then at least, the West was not willing to defend them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,812 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Born Hunter said: A significant change in the RAF's current operations; signals intelligence flights have been routine around Ukraine, but the most recent one over the Black Sea was escorted by Typhoons... Nah, we've got a new plan ! British pilots are training Chinese pilots how to fly Typhoons and F35 so the chinks are going to join us and we together will defeat the Russians and the Americans and split the world up between us ! Just thought I'd get in first ! Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, chartpolski said: Nah, we've got a new plan ! British pilots are training Chinese pilots how to fly Typhoons and F35 so the chinks are going to join us and we together will defeat the Russians and the Americans and split the world up between us ! Just thought I'd get in first ! Cheers. I read that yesterday! A massive failure of government upon a history of failures regarding Chinese espionage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,840 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: It might have changed now but last I looked, in comparable timeframe the casualty rate was about the same. Only difference being the Yanks actually achieved the objectives of their invasion phases and within a truly expeditionary scenario, not a next door neighbour invasion. I'm not sure it would change anything for you if he did. I agree. But 'right' doesn't really come in to it. It's about what is accepted by the other side. Every move has a cost/benefit. As with the intelligence flights, which have no doubt been absolutely critical to Ukraine's planning, the RAF at least have just demonstrated their resolve to defend them. Would that extend to aid... That's the decision Putin is making, not whether or not he has the moral high ground. Tbh I'm not sure if those supply lines are at serious risk, but it was certainly a concern they would be shut down by Russia in the early days, which suggests to me, back then at least, the West was not willing to defend them. I'm not, contrary to what you might think, a supporter of Russia. But I certainly don't support the globalists/Americans or anyone else, in their aims of getting their hands on Ukraine and its resources....while feeding us the biggest pile of propaganda ever seen 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,690 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 8 hours ago, DIDO.1 said: I'm not, contrary to what you might think, a supporter of Russia. But I certainly don't support the globalists/Americans or anyone else, in their aims of getting their hands on Ukraine and its resources....while feeding us the biggest pile of propaganda ever seen some sense mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,618 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 So it now appears that the newly annexed regions have been put under marshall law to prevent citizens fleeing or in other words they are now human shields, meanwhile in the south, Kherson is being evacuated and there's been a media blackout on the Ukrainian side of any going ons in that South side of the river area, something big is going down there for sure but exactly what we don't know but it's looking like Ukraine are gearing up for a big push for Kherson and to liberate that side of the river. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, kanny said: So it now appears that the newly annexed regions have been put under marshall law to prevent citizens fleeing or in other words they are now human shields, meanwhile in the south Kherson is being evacuated and there's been a media blackout on the Ukrainian side of any going ons in that South side of the river area, something big is going down there for sure but exactly what we don't know but it's looking like Ukrainian are gearing up for a big push for Kherson and to liberate that side of the river. Or its a diversion and the Crimea bridge is going down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Born Hunter said: I read that yesterday! A massive failure of government upon a history of failures regarding Chinese espionage. Surely this would be against MOD form 135 (The Official Secrets Act) That they would be required to sign upon discharge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,618 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nicepix said: Or its a diversion and the Crimea bridge is going down. The bridge is currently unusable for heavy vehicles and trains and will be for sometime, only light traffic is being permitted so that job is as good as done I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, kanny said: The bridge is currently unusable for heavy vehicles and trains and will be for sometime, only light traffic is being permitted so that job is as good as done I think. I understand that. However, dropping the bridge would be a massive signal to the Russian people especially those in Crimea that the war is closer to home than they can accept. Similar to us bombing German cities after Goerring promised that no bombs would land on German soil. Didn't do much collateral damage, but the message was clearly understood. The Argentinian runway that the Vulcan bombed was another minor damage that shook a nation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,812 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nicepix said: Similar to us bombing German cities after Goerring promised that no bombs would land on German soil. Didn't do much collateral damage, but the message was clearly understood. Have you forgot about Dresden ? 4,000 tons of incendiaries, city razed, and 25,000 dead...... Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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