Borr 6,136 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Yep ruble is about to become worthless and to pay in rubles would mean lifting certain banking sanctions presumably, he could stop his invasion but chooses to kills thousands of Russian kids and Ukrainian women and children for his expansion program . West needs to up sanctions and cut off russian gas and oil... I'd rather suffer financially than be led into war ....hurry up and top him . 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,945 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 I'll never make a global economist........I'd of thought Russia would want payment for gas and oil in hard currencies like USD, Euro, GBP, ¥en, to enable them to buy arms and materiel on the international markets ? Who would sell to them for payment in worthless rubles ? Go figure...... Cheers. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,628 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I'll never make a global economist........I'd of thought Russia would want payment for gas and oil in hard currencies like USD, Euro, GBP, ¥en, to enable them to buy arms and materiel on the international markets ? Who would sell to them for payment in worthless rubles ? Go figure...... Cheers. Yeah that's kinda what I was thinking, Im rubbish with this stuff, I've been trying to mine bitcoin, gardens a right mess now 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,628 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 54 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I'll never make a global economist........I'd of thought Russia would want payment for gas and oil in hard currencies like USD, Euro, GBP, ¥en, to enable them to buy arms and materiel on the international markets ? Who would sell to them for payment in worthless rubles ? Go figure...... Cheers. This makes sense what I've just read? ....he gets paid a trillion zillion worthless Roubles now but he's gambling on the recovery and then he'll then be sitting on a tidy sum? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,628 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Mad lads 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,489 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 8 hours ago, kanny said: Mad lads They must be stupid can't they see it will come straight back at them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 11 hours ago, chartpolski said: I'll never make a global economist........I'd of thought Russia would want payment for gas and oil in hard currencies like USD, Euro, GBP, ¥en, to enable them to buy arms and materiel on the international markets ? Who would sell to them for payment in worthless rubles ? Go figure...... Cheers. Their plan is for the Rubles to be bought from the Russian central bank with foreign currency by the countries wanting to buy gas. Looks like Germany isn't going to be playing ball though. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Noteworthy those fellas only threaten non nuclear states, even though they are NATO members, it's testing the resolve of the nuclear armed members... I'd say ten years ago the appetite for the UK maintaining a nuclear deterrent was genuinely controversial, certainly amongst millennials who had known nothing but peace and prosperity in Europe. It was a factor in Scotland's indy ref and left wing politics generally. I wonder if the estimated £100B for the new Dreadnought subs and sustainment of Trident over their lifetime is generally considered ringfenced by the public now? P.S. I love the names of the new subs, Dreadnought, Warspite, Valiant and King George VI. Edited March 24, 2022 by Born Hunter 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,945 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 Politics have been turned upside down. Now you've got Kier Starmer saying Labour have allways been in favour of nuclear power, and are now the party of tax cuts, whereas the Tories are now the tax and spend party ! In scotland the SNP used North Sea oil and gas revenue as the fiscal bases for independence, now they are in cahoots with the greens, they want to abolish hydrocarbons ! Who knows what their stance will be if and when the lights start going out ? Boris, probably at the insistence of his wife, was gung ho for net zero, but is now pushing for upping North Sea gas and oil production, and even contemplating fracking ! "lets see which way the winds blowing before committing ourselves" Or, as the great Groucho said; " I have my principles, but if you don't like them, I have others" ! Cheers. 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,199 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: P.S. I love the names of the new subs, Dreadnought, Warspite, Valiant and King George VI. I’m absolutely amazed they didn’t call them Lawrence, Silcott, Mohammed and AIDS ! Edited March 24, 2022 by WILF 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, WILF said: I’m absolutely amazed they didn’t call them Lawrence, Silcott, Mohammed and AIDS ! The newest build of frigates have been named the Inspiration class. But that's about as far as they have let all that nonsense go so far. Generally not realised by the public but the mine hunting fleet is named after foxhound packs. A local pack has a life ring from a decommissioned vessel named after that pack in their kennels. Also, I'm told the horses of the mounted regiments of the Army that were at the Defence Animal Training Regiment would spend all winter hunting with the local packs not so long ago. Just a bit of hunting related military trivia. Edited March 24, 2022 by Born Hunter 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 So, what happens when it comes time for these net detractors to leave and, they decide that they don't want to go back? What happens when the government stops the payments? What happens when these people refuse to leave other peoples homes? What happens when their new Ukranian pet becomes a pain the arse after a few weeks? Individual sponsors will be asked to provide homes or a spare room rent-free for as long as they are able, with a minimum stay of 6 months. In return, they will receive £350 per month. Ukrainians arriving in the UK under this scheme will be granted 3 years leave to remain, with entitlement to work, and access benefits and public services. ‘Homes for Ukraine’ scheme launches - GOV.UK WWW.GOV.UK UK individuals, charities, community groups and businesses can now record their interest in supporting... This is what our own people that are in need of help are faced with........ You could be on the register for months or sometimes years even if you're in a priority group. You might not get a home if you are low priority. How long does it take to get a council home? - Shelter England ENGLAND.SHELTER.ORG.UK How long you have to wait for a council or housing association home depends on your level of priority... And that's just the regular indigenous people - homing and caring for our elderly and damaged exforces personnel is a whole other woeful can of worms. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,077 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, WILF said: I’m absolutely amazed they didn’t call them Lawrence, Silcott, Mohammed and AIDS ! Outrageous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,262 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, WILF said: I’m absolutely amazed they didn’t call them Lawrence, Silcott, Mohammed and AIDS ! mate....we want to be thankfull they didnt call one Floyd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jonjon79 said: So, what happens when it comes time for these net detractors to leave and, they decide that they don't want to go back? What happens when the government stops the payments? What happens when these people refuse to leave other peoples homes? What happens when their new Ukranian pet becomes a pain the arse after a few weeks? Individual sponsors will be asked to provide homes or a spare room rent-free for as long as they are able, with a minimum stay of 6 months. In return, they will receive £350 per month. Ukrainians arriving in the UK under this scheme will be granted 3 years leave to remain, with entitlement to work, and access benefits and public services. ‘Homes for Ukraine’ scheme launches - GOV.UK WWW.GOV.UK UK individuals, charities, community groups and businesses can now record their interest in supporting... This is what our own people that are in need of help are faced with........ You could be on the register for months or sometimes years even if you're in a priority group. You might not get a home if you are low priority. How long does it take to get a council home? - Shelter England ENGLAND.SHELTER.ORG.UK How long you have to wait for a council or housing association home depends on your level of priority... And that's just the regular indigenous people - homing and caring for our elderly and damaged exforces personnel is a whole other woeful can of worms. You're comparing apples to oranges there though. The Ukrainians aren't being given council housing they're being put up in spare rooms at a cost of £350pcm. Local Authorities will pay out more than that a month in housing benefit to British citizens in need of help with housing. Now if the ridiculous waiting lists for council housing bothers you well we all know who's responsible for selling it all off and not allowing councils to use the funds raised to build more don't we 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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