Russia Ukraine WW3

[Born Hunter 17,775]

21 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

A Russian minister today tweeted that there are 10,000 dead and 16,000 injured Russian soldiers. The tweet was quickly deleted, and I quess he wasn't looking forward to his meeting with Putin !

Cheers.

A pro Kremlin news channel also reported nearly 10k killed. It’s half looking likely that the death toll is actually as severe as the Ukrainians have been claiming.

[TOMO 26,262]

25 minutes ago, kanny said:

The Ukrainians are saying  15400 dead and x3 for the injured  so probably somewhere in between the two...

is that Ukrainian deaths?

[Born Hunter 17,775]

1 minute ago, TOMO said:

is that Ukrainian deaths?

Russian

[kanny 20,628]

4 minutes ago, TOMO said:

is that Ukrainian deaths?

No Russian 

[shaaark 10,850]

4 hours ago, mushroom said:

That’s definitely flying subsonic. Strange, as most modern (if not all) Russian cruise missiles fly at super or hypersonic speeds. Probably a left over from Soviet times. Like bonfire night when you get the fireworks tin out and there’s a couple of cheap bangers and a garden fountain left over from years gone by 

 

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Not for the entire flight time they don't. They often only utilise super sonic speeds in their terminal attack phase to reduce the risk from anti-air defences. Sub-sonic is more fuel efficient when travelling in a low threat environment.

 

4 hours ago, mushroom said:

That’s not exactly a low threat environment is it Middle of a war zone ffs

Lads on here could take that out with .177 flavour

 

3 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Where you saw it was low threat. That’s why it was sub sonic. The entire flight path of a cruise missile for any given mission is designed to minimise risk before the weapon is even fired.

 

3 hours ago, mushroom said:

I know that, I also know that new tech allows for constant supersonic speeds for the entirety of a flight plan (fuel load dependent). Anyway…. We can agree to disagree. Without more info we’re both guessing.

 

3 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

I’m not guessing, it’s allegedly a kalibr cruise missile which has been extensively used in combat and has reasonably well known performance. It’s totally standard for super sonic cruise missiles to fly sub sonic and had nothing to do with ‘tech’.

Sub sonic speed has benefits, regardless if ‘new tech’ allows sustained super sonic speed.

 

3 hours ago, mushroom said:

 

3 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Every statement in the history of humanity has been based on assumptions. That doesn’t make everything a guess.

You said that it must be an old soviet era missile because it’s travelling sub sonic. Which is ignorant to how modern cruise missiles are designed to work. Even next generation cruise missiles are being designed to utilise sub sonic flight.

 

3 hours ago, mushroom said:

I said probably which is the same as allegedly, vague. Plus I was making a joke, plus the published lowest speed a Kalibr missile flies at is Mach 0.8… That missile in the video is flying (IMO) a lot slower than that. So with all this taken into account neither you, nor me can be right or wrong on this

 

3 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

With respect, the only claim I made was that super sonic missiles utilise sub sonic flight. Which is factually correct. You claimed the fact it was travelling sub sonic meant it wasn’t a super sonic missile. Which is incorrect.

You could’ve just said “huh didn’t know that, fair” but you wanted to be clever.

 

2 hours ago, mushroom said:

I did know that and nowhere did I dispute it or say it’s a subsonic missile. I said it’s flying subsonic and then made a joke about it being a Soviet throwback

So with respect also…. Kinell

 

 

2 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

You literally said it’s strange it’s flying subsonic! Then came out with all sorts of reasons to justify your ‘joke’ that it must be an old gen missile. It’s totally fitting the MO of the missile it’s alleged to be. But apparently you knew that. LOL

f***ing hell like, is it you or me that’s autistic here!? LOL

 

2 hours ago, mushroom said:

It is strange, as it’s flying through a war zone at subsonic speed, maybe that’s why the Ruskies are losing to a lesser force Bloke with the camera could quite easily have a had a western air defense system instead of a Nikon and dropped it out of the sky.

I’ve given no justification for my joke except that it was a joke.

 

 

2 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Anti air won’t be everywhere in Ukraine, it’ll be focussed in the battle space on threat vectors and high value areas. Russian intelligence will be constantly mapping this so mission planners can design flight paths to minimise the threat of these systems. They just don’t need to maintain supersonic flight. And that’s the reality in almost every war unless the enemy have total situational awareness of the air domain. Which frankly neither side have here.

"But while there's moonlight

And music and love and romance

Let's face the music and dance...

[Born Hunter 17,775]

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"But while there's moonlight

And music and love and romance

Let's face the music and dance...

To get all those quotes must’ve been a mission. I respect the effort.

[Borr 6,136]

Random... A lady went missing in nearby village with dementia, I've just seen a helicopter going flat out over head that seemed to be chasing a solid light which was a few seconds ahead of it , missus recons it was drone searching for said woman but I can't see it myself, it appeared to be a pursuit, any ideas?

[Borr 6,136]

Anyway that aside , zelenskyy spoke to Italian parliament today and said they are on the cusp of losing the fight against Putin, a mayor that's people has defended a strategic bridge in the south and routed russian from attack has said they're out of weapons (stinger) and needs immediate resupply.....

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17 minutes ago, Borr said:

Random... A lady went missing in nearby village with dementia, I've just seen a helicopter going flat out over head that seemed to be chasing a solid light which was a few seconds ahead of it , missus recons it was drone searching for said woman but I can't see it myself, it appeared to be a pursuit, any ideas?

Have a look on flight radar 

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[kanny 20,628]

53 minutes ago, Borr said:

Random... A lady went missing in nearby village with dementia, I've just seen a helicopter going flat out over head that seemed to be chasing a solid light which was a few seconds ahead of it , missus recons it was drone searching for said woman but I can't see it myself, it appeared to be a pursuit, any ideas?

This is the moment I've been waiting for

[Borr 6,136]

6 minutes ago, kanny said:

This is the moment I've been waiting for

Okay smart arse it was a Westland wildcat, as I've seen on flight tracker , and it was chasing sommat. Maybe aliens, but my first thought was a missile obviously very unlikely lol, but then maybe a drone or something...most likely a training exercise and lady missing since Sunday with dementia gas just been found and home with family, lucky it's been milder last couple of days...

[Greyman 28,592]

17 minutes ago, kanny said:

This is the moment I've been waiting for

It’s also Alien week on blaze, coincidence, I don’t think so

[Greyman 28,592]

The government think it’s the Russians, at least they kept there sense of humour in a crisis

 

[shaaark 10,850]

17 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

To get all those quotes must’ve been a mission. I respect the effort.

Cheers mate, but really, it was no effort at all.   

Edited March 23, 2022 by shaaark