socks 32,253 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Man’s a grade A fukcing clown ….. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,139 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 02/03/2022 at 16:46, Born Hunter said: That’s one of my points really. The easy answer is ‘a NATO member’, but do people really give anymore of a f**k about Estonia than they do Ukraine? Even though they’re a NATO member, in that event, are people really willing to stand up? Expand Kaliningrad is the "fly in the ointment" . If Russia invaded Lithuania on the pretext of protecting Kaliningrad from Lithuanian aggression would NATO risk nuclear war ? Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,345 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) On 02/03/2022 at 15:49, Born Hunter said: I hear the arguments in favour of Putin's actions. I feel we just fundamentally disagree so no point in thrashing it out. What I would say then, is at what point for you all is the line drawn? There's an assumption that it ends with Ukraine, and hopefully it does. But having taken the Crimean peninsula and now in the process of the rest of Ukraine, if he continues then where do those of you with him stand on action? Hypothetically if he invades the baltics (NATO members)? Or the non-NATO Nordics? What about placing offensive strike weapons in occupied Ukraine? The examples are infinite of course, but where is the line drawn? At the channel? Expand He hasn’t got the capability to do any of that has he mate, other than place stuff in Ukraine when he wins and occupies the gaff. Its not even a question. I don’t want Ebola but I’m not particularly worried if it’s ravaging the Congo As I know I absolutely don’t need to tell you, the USA has 9 carrier strikes groups, each of which is capable of wiping out a small country !…….Russia don’t even have 1 ! Peer on Peer it’s not even a contest is it?……in the event of nuclear it matters little to any of us, there will be f**k all to fight over and we will all be dead ! Lol Edited March 2, 2022 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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SheepChaser 8,089 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 02/03/2022 at 15:53, Lenmcharristar said: Open your eyes Expand ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) Russian bank customers have 30 days to wind down assets under 'absurd' UK sanctions loophole INEWS.CO.UK Russia's second largest bank, VTB, has been granted a 30-day exemption for clients to close... It's where Boris mates have their money. Edited March 2, 2022 by sandymere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,650 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 02/03/2022 at 17:59, sandymere said: Russian bank customers have 30 days to wind down assets under 'absurd' UK sanctions loophole INEWS.CO.UK Russia's second largest bank, VTB, has been granted a 30-day exemption for clients to close... It's where Boris mates have their money. Expand Or their aim is to hurt the machine not the people ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 950 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 So if Russia takes and keeps Ukraine should NATO then invade and "liberate" to prevent Russia placing nukes in that country??? That seems to be Russia's stated reason for the invasion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,783 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) On 02/03/2022 at 17:13, WILF said: He hasn’t got the capability to do any of that has he mate, other than place stuff in Ukraine when he wins and occupies the gaff. Its not even a question. I don’t want Ebola but I’m not particularly worried if it’s ravaging the Congo As I know I absolutely don’t need to tell you, the USA has 9 carrier strikes groups, each of which is capable of wiping out a small country !…….Russia don’t even have 1 ! Peer on Peer it’s not even a contest is it?……in the event of nuclear it matters little to any of us, there will be f**k all to fight over and we will all be dead ! Lol Expand I think you’re miles off mate tbh. I think he could very well attack and annex Baltic territory. He doesn’t need carrier strike groups (he does have one shit one), it’s on his doorstep and a huge amount of armour is what he would need and has. The Russian military has been underwhelming but it isn’t incapable of further conquest. It was a simple enough question I thought. If he does do any more would you back leathering him or not? No is an acceptable answer, lol. So is, not sure tbh. Edited March 2, 2022 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 6,901 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) On 02/03/2022 at 16:05, socks said: Nobody wants a war but we cannot let putin just keep on sacking countries otherwise Russia will become a very rich and powerful nation and when that happens we are fukced and it will be far to late to do anything about it. We have seen what’s happened to this country by not stopping the creeping migration from third world countries and allowing the liberals to infiltrate our education system. We can’t do the same with putin. Expand Well said To many wanna be oligarchs on here Edited March 2, 2022 by waltjnr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neobliviscaris1776 1,998 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 What countries is Putin meant to be sacking exactly? Where has he stated he even wants to 'take' Ukraine? Alot of folk ignoring what's actually been going on in Ukraine since 2014 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 950 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 02/03/2022 at 18:46, Neobliviscaris1776 said: What countries is Putin meant to be sacking exactly? Where has he stated he even wants to 'take' Ukraine? Alot of folk ignoring what's actually been going on in Ukraine since 2014 Expand Did he state he was going to "take" Crimea? No.....but he did.... Georgia ? Again he did. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,345 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 02/03/2022 at 18:22, Born Hunter said: I think you’re miles off mate tbh. I think he could very well attack and annex Baltic territory. He doesn’t need carrier strike groups (he does have one shit one), it’s on his doorstep and a huge amount of armour is what he would need and has. The Russian military has been underwhelming but it isn’t incapable of further conquest. It was a simple enough question I thought. If he does do any more would you back leathering him or not? No is an acceptable answer, lol. So is, not sure tbh. Expand We’d have to leather him if he enters a NATO country, simple as that. Non nato states…..couldn’t care less. Is he the villain, if he is then he isn’t alone mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,783 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 02/03/2022 at 18:54, WILF said: We’d have to leather him if he enters a NATO country, simple as that. Non nato states…..couldn’t care less. Is he the villain, if he is then he isn’t alone mate. Expand Thank you. I've no smart argument against your answer, lol. Just curious. Personally, I wouldn't want us to sit by and see Finland or Sweden invaded or attacked. But I think in the event of that, shit would be well and truly sideways and there really wouldn't be much in it. Tbh the new buzz phrase is 'grey zone war' aka 'below the threshold attack', and I think we're going to see a lot of this over the coming years. There are clear red lines that we need to be sure of and enforce, but there is a lot of scope for competition and attack below those. It's in this grey zone that the rules get murky. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 02/03/2022 at 18:46, Neobliviscaris1776 said: What countries is Putin meant to be sacking exactly? Where has he stated he even wants to 'take' Ukraine? Alot of folk ignoring what's actually been going on in Ukraine since 2014 Expand So what’s he doing then ? Paving the way for a fukcing tea party 4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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