stop.end 4,082 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:27, SheepChaser said: Hands up. Who here only reads / watches the news when it’s on Facebook Expand To be quite honest...I really think bar about 20 people.. the rest have been living the stepford wives lives... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,650 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:26, sandymere said: Expand Ahhh sources say.... KGB will love that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,082 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:28, Neobliviscaris1776 said: It's a mine field of information that's for sure, but there is definitely a direction in which the world is heading, that of a more authoritarian approach to society with a globalist agenda in mind. I would say this is the driving force now behind all world events, emergencies, economic policy, foreign policy...the list goes on Expand Same sentiments... Covid shown that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:27, SheepChaser said: Hands up. Who here only reads / watches the news when it’s on Facebook Expand I read French, German and Arabic news reports. The BBC and British tabloids are away off the mark in many ways. For example; did you know that Russia and the Ukraine export wheat to many middle east and north African countries who are dependent on it? The embargo on Russian goods or Ukraine not being able to harvest the wheat will cause massive food shortages which will in turn fuel even more migration from those countries. There is a much bigger picture to this than Russia wanting to 'liberate' Ukraine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,650 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:34, Nicepix said: I read French, German and Arabic news reports. The BBC and British tabloids are away off the mark in many ways. For example; did you know that Russia and the Ukraine export wheat to many middle east and north African countries who are dependent on it? The embargo on Russian goods or Ukraine not being able to harvest the wheat will cause massive food shortages which will in turn fuel even more migration from those countries. There is a much bigger picture to this than Russia wanting to 'liberate' Ukraine. Expand Farmer mate was saying its a worry regarding the wheat for planting plus he's now paying a grand for nitrogen that was 200 quid a few weeks back 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,344 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:39, kanny said: Farmer mate was saying its a worry regarding the wheat for planting plus he's now paying a grand for nitrogen that was 200 quid a few weeks back Expand Tell him to plant a load of clover then the nitrogen is free ! Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:39, kanny said: Farmer mate was saying its a worry regarding the wheat for planting plus he's now paying a grand for nitrogen that was 200 quid a few weeks back Expand Turkey imports 50% of its wheat from those two countries. They are trying to become self sufficient, but they can't do it overnight and it will be far more expensive. Tunisia imports 80% of their wheat and cannot grow it themselves. It isn't just oil and gas that can be witheld to ransome. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,434 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 wasn't the Ukraine referred to as the bread basket of Europe.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,344 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:48, TOMO said: wasn't the Ukraine referred to as the bread basket of Europe.. Expand Greggs mate 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 6,172 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 I'm of two minds, one Ukraine surrenders , they evacuate and allow Russia to take it , in expectation that Putin will shortly be ended by his own...two NATO steps in and offers air support , or in the guise of Poland or someone and wipes out the convoy whilst protecting airspace from nukes etc. Unfortunately I think it's going to be annihilation of Ukraine cities whilst the world watches and says how brave they are. Maybe countries might send in special forces in the guise of ex forces to completely feck the convoy up , which doesn't seem to be traveling at speed and reportedly has break downs. Anyway thoughts are with the Ukrainian people tonight.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,344 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:55, Borr said: I'm of two minds, one Ukraine surrenders , they evacuate and allow Russia to take it , in expectation that Putin will shortly be ended by his own...two NATO steps in and offers air support , or in the guise of Poland or someone and wipes out the convoy whilst protecting airspace from nukes etc. Unfortunately I think it's going to be annihilation of Ukraine cities whilst the world watches and says how brave they are. Maybe countries might send in special forces in the guise of ex forces to completely feck the convoy up , which doesn't seem to be traveling at speed and reportedly has break downs. Anyway thoughts are with the Ukrainian people tonight.... Expand Or……we could just say “Fine, no EU and no NATO for Ukraine to keep them off your doorstep” War over ! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,841 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:58, WILF said: Or……we could just say “Fine, no EU and no NATO for Ukraine to keep them off your doorstep” War over ! Expand That to me is the best answer and ukraine could milk the balls outa russia and eu for staying neutral 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,783 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:58, WILF said: Or……we could just say “Fine, no EU and no NATO for Ukraine to keep them off your doorstep” War over ! Expand How does that work at this point? Like, what guarantees would Russia need to be sure that as soon as they’re out NATO doesn’t role in with, what we now know is, a far superior force. I’m not sure they’d accept any promises at this point. Trust is non existent. If Russia agreed to a ceasefire but not to leaving (as a guarantee) then that’s tantamount to a bloodless victory for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 6,172 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Russia wouldn't have not invaded if Ukraine said no to NATO, I thought that was obvious.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,082 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 01/03/2022 at 19:34, Nicepix said: I read French, German and Arabic news reports. The BBC and British tabloids are away off the mark in many ways. For example; did you know that Russia and the Ukraine export wheat to many middle east and north African countries who are dependent on it? The embargo on Russian goods or Ukraine not being able to harvest the wheat will cause massive food shortages which will in turn fuel even more migration from those countries. There is a much bigger picture to this than Russia wanting to 'liberate' Ukraine. Expand Oooh... Things finally starting to click with folks I see... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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