Russia Ukraine WW3

[kanny 20,667]

5 minutes ago, Stavross said:

either way it’s a bit of rest bite for the Ukrainian’s

I'm really not sure how this will play out for Ukraine at this point, If Prigozhin overthows Putin then  it might be a case of better the devil you know ....Prigozhin is ball deep now , ain't no going back

[steve66 3,538]

2 minutes ago, kanny said:

I'm really not sure how this will play out for Ukraine at this point, If Prigozhin overthows Putin then  it might be a case of better the devil you know ....Prigozhin is ball deep now , ain't no going back

i think theyll come to some  sort of compromise with putin for better pay and equipment , putin cant afford  to let this get out of hand 

[Stavross 15,969]

4 minutes ago, kanny said:

I'm really not sure how this will play out for Ukraine at this point, If Prigozhin overthows Putin then  it might be a case of better the devil you know ....Prigozhin is ball deep now , ain't no going back

To me, it all depends who on the Russian side is backing him, military coups never end well, they always need some kind of political backing, this chap is a war lord not a politician 

[Stavross 15,969]

3 minutes ago, steve66 said:

i think theyll come to some  sort of compromise with putin for better pay and equipment , putin cant afford  to let this get out of hand 

I think it’s gone too far for that, that would show putin had backed down to him at the first roll of the dice

[chesney 5,457]

They just going do away with that first chance he be never heard of again

[kanny 20,667]

5 minutes ago, steve66 said:

i think theyll come to some  sort of compromise with putin for better pay and equipment , putin cant afford  to let this get out of hand 

Prigozhins original beef was with Shoigu,  I think Putin's refusal to remove him has forced Prigozhins hand and  lines have been crossed now, I can't see this ending diplomatically tbh.

[EDDIE B 3,166]

Convoy heading for Moscow. All the elite families flying out of the Country

[Deker 3,478]

1 minute ago, EDDIE B said:

Convoy heading for Moscow. All the elite families flying out of the Country

Really?????

Does this look like an uprising then, or Coup, or civil war or whatever?

[steve66 3,538]

Some interesting stuff on twitter , looks like alot of putins friends are fleeing moscow 

[Stavross 15,969]

I’ve just read something that says they are financially backed by the Russian oligarch’s as they have been hit hard by the west’s sanctions, if that’s true it’s more of a political attempt to take control rather than a military coup 

[EDDIE B 3,166]

10 minutes ago, Deker said:

Really?????

Does this look like an uprising then, or Coup, or civil war or whatever?

Was said on the live twitter link Kanny stuck up

[EDDIE B 3,166]

2 minutes ago, Stavross said:

I’ve just read something that says they are financially backed by the Russian oligarch’s as they have been hit hard by the west’s sanctions, if that’s true it’s more of a political attempt to take control rather than a military coup 

Sounds very plausible

[kanny 20,667]

9 minutes ago, Stavross said:

I’ve just read something that says they are financially backed by the Russian oligarch’s as they have been hit hard by the west’s sanctions, if that’s true it’s more of a political attempt to take control rather than a military coup 

That's my thinking also...upto now russia has had three voluntary mobilisations and they aren't meeting the numbers so putin is running out of options here he may have to go to "official war" for national mobilisation. Now from my understanding when Russia is under law of War they have the power to under that law to seize assets including  bank accounts of the oligarchs. 

[Arry 22,220]

Earlier on Saturday, a Russian security source told Reuters that Wagner fighters had taken control of military facilities in the city of Voronezh, about 500 km (310 miles) south of Moscow. Reuters could not independently confirm that assertion.

Cheers Arry

[Stavross 15,969]

I’d be keeping my eye on the country’s that the Wagner group have been involved with in the past, the likes of Syria, Libya and the African countries to see where their loyalty lies, although Wagner was backed and funded by Russia they were the boots on the ground not putin, and although these countries are relatively poor they are still capable of supplying Wagner with arms, Belarus is another to keep an eye on because depending on how this plays out they may distance themselves from putin