Russia Ukraine WW3

[Born Hunter 17,788]

21 hours ago, kanny said:

ATGM  in action 

 

Not sure what that is, if it was a javelin I’d expect to have struck from above. 

Have you read about the NLAW that the UK has provided? Very innovative bit of kit and now thoroughly field tested. Unguided but uses a fairly sophisticated but simple lead calculation for the unguided rocket. The really clever bit is that it can be programmed with two different attack profiles, either a direct lateral attack for soft targets, or a flyover where magnetometers in the rocket detect proximity of the target and detonate directly above where armour is weakest. Normally this would require a guided missile that gains altitude initially to enable a top attack or it requires the operator to be elevated with an unguided weapon.

The great thing is that for the price of one javelin you can buy around 6 NLAWs!

Also this is a weapon manufactured in Northern Ireland after a joint British/Swedish development project.

[kanny 20,667]

18 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Not sure what that is, if it was a javelin I’d expect to have struck from above. 

Have you read about the NLAW that the UK has provided? Very innovative bit of kit and now thoroughly field tested. Unguided but uses a fairly sophisticated but simple lead calculation for the unguided rocket. The really clever bit is that it can be programmed with two different attack profiles, either a direct lateral attack for soft targets, or a flyover where magnetometers in the rocket detect proximity of the target and detonate directly above where armour is weakest. Normally this would require a guided missile that gains altitude initially to enable a top attack or it requires the operator to be elevated with an unguided weapon.

The great thing is that for the price of one javelin you can buy around 6 NLAWs!

Also this is a weapon manufactured in Northern Ireland after a joint British/Swedish development project.

It's like a very angry wasp lol   I've seen a few of these in  various videos , perhaps a stugna-p ?  Not seen one used on a moving target though...

 

[waltjnr 6,943]

1 hour ago, Jonjon79 said:

It took me a few seconds to notice that

Same here!! brilliant ! 

[waltjnr 6,943]

Born  how do those NLAW ,Javelin missile things work ,as in you see a tank ,aim ,fire ,then what is the missile following/looking for ? 

[lurcherman 887 13,249]

9 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

Born  how do those NLAW ,Javelin missile things work ,as in you see a tank ,aim ,fire ,then what is the missile following/looking for ? 

Think you just Pull the trigger bud 

[waltjnr 6,943]

1 minute ago, lurcherman 887 said:

Think you just Pull the trigger bud 

Do they work on squirrels  or just cheap shite russian tanks ? 

[Born Hunter 17,788]

15 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

Born  how do those NLAW ,Javelin missile things work ,as in you see a tank ,aim ,fire ,then what is the missile following/looking for ? 

I can only tell you what the literature says, I’ve never used one.

Both are fire and forget, ie once fired require no operator input.

Javelin is actively guided by heat seeker on board the missile to the point of impact.

I think NLAW would technically be considered unguided, but is very smart for an unguided weapon. It uses ‘predicted line of sight’ targeting, that is it calculates the lead required like with shotgun shooting. The rocket once fired has no guidance actively seeking the target, it just follows the line it was fired in but has inertial guidance built in to keep it perfectly straight. It measures how straight it’s flying using accelerometers and makes corrections to its flight to keep on the straight line of predicted intercept.

Javelin with its active guidance, can be launched into the air to gain some altitude so the missile can then descend onto the weakly armoured top of a tank. NLAW can be fired in a line straight over the top of a tank, detecting when it’s over the top and detonating in the air just above.

Javelin is probably the world benchmark for man portable tank killers but NLAW is incredibly innovative. Very impressive Swedish r&d brought to reality by British engineering.

Edited April 14, 2022 by Born Hunter

[waltjnr 6,943]

Cheers Born ,so much more than kevs answer ,sound pretty clever ,and obviously proving their worth out there ,never seen so many tank turrets blown off ! 

[Francie 6,368]

So what's actually happening  in Ukraine,are the Russians still advancing?

[Born Hunter 17,788]

2 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

The old law’s where like a old fashioned bazooka 3 tracer rifle rounds to find your target then switch to hot an wait for the whooooosh

I think the yanks still use them or similar generation man portable rockets. Other countries have sent similar stuff to Ukraine too. I thinks it’s fair to say they still have their uses for anti materiel, anti personnel and against soft vehicles.

But they’re obsolete against modern armour and tanks. Stuff like reactive armour has explosive tiles to ‘explode back’ against the rockets warhead on impact. Or non reactive systems like slat cages stood off from the armour making the rocket detonate at a stood off distance which fucks the shape charges effectiveness.

[lurcherman 887 13,249]

27 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

Do they work on squirrels  or just cheap shite russian tanks ? 

We have whippets for squirrels ? 

[dogmandont 9,854]

3 minutes ago, lurcherman 887 said:

We have whippets for squirrels ? 

How's the pup getting on now. 

[lurcherman 887 13,249]

2 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

How's the pup getting on now. 

She’s doing good mate still whinging at night for first couple hours then settles dandruff all gone eating well not scratching anymore put a advocate over her all jabbed up now and out and about 

got her a little box for the garden she loves it out there given the choice she would stay out all night.

[Born Hunter 17,788]

14 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I’m talking about a long time ago, where good fun tho

I could do some damage with one. 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,116]

1 hour ago, McVey said:

Think some of you lads have been playing too much Call of Duty.

I’ve seen the geezer from the front of modern warfare if that counts ……