Russia Ukraine WW3

[kanny 20,667]

7 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

In hindsight what do you think should’ve been done? Some countries did a lot well before invasion. Anymore might’ve been seen as escalatory. Especially had an invasion not happened.

In hindsight there was plenty of warning but that’s always viewed with 20/20 vision. Even on this thread there were posters saying such claims were warmongering. In fact France has just fired their top military man for failure to effectively predict the invasion. 

 I think its pretty clear now with the tactics they are using that Ukrainian forces have been under "elite special training" for quite some time now , probably  since 2014 .it's no coincidence that they have performed beyond expectations and it certainly wasn't a matter of giving regular soldiers some high end kit and hoping for the best.

[Born Hunter 17,787]

11 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

f**k knows Born, I have  no answers. I cant understand how we have come so far in the evolutionary process yet allow such psychotic/ sociopathic knuckle draggers to be our leaders.

 

Fair one mate. I don't think we have come that far tbh. Biologically we’re the same upright apes that were getting eaten by dire wolves and chasing entire herds of mammoths off cliffs! That was between bouts of murdering and raping other tribes and acts of casual infanticide and parricide in your own tribe. 

Its one reason I value defence so much. Peace is just momentary. We haven’t civilised or engineered our way out of war. Even in Europe. Of course if we maintain a very capable, experienced and well funded military then theres a greater chance of it being used for wrong. So there’s no right or wrong really.

[jukel123 8,385]

Just now, Born Hunter said:

Fair one mate. I don't think we have come that far tbh. Biologically we’re the same upright apes that were getting eaten by dire wolves and chasing entire herds of mammoths off cliffs! That was between bouts of murdering and raping other tribes and acts of casual infanticide and parricide in your own tribe. 

Its one reason I value defence so much. Peace is just momentary. We haven’t civilised or engineered our way out of war. Even in Europe. Of course if we maintain a very capable, experienced and well funded military then theres a greater chance of it being used for wrong. So there’s no right or wrong really.

Agree. Apes with clubs. But the clubs contain nuclear warheads. 

[kanny 20,667]

Looks like Mariupol has finally fallen,  these lads have taken the brunt of it ,I'm amazed they managed to hold out this long tbh ,

As ever this is if you take the video at face value. 

 

[kanny 20,667]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Agree. Apes with clubs. But the clubs contain nuclear warheads. 

Modern man running on caveman software

[Born Hunter 17,787]

16 minutes ago, kanny said:

 I think its pretty clear now with the tactics they are using that Ukrainian forces have been under "elite special training" for quite some time now , probably  since 2014 .it's no coincidence that they have performed beyond expectations and it certainly wasn't a matter of giving regular soldiers some high end kit and hoping for the best.

Yup. The inception of the much derided Ranger regiment and its Special Operations Brigade is very fitting given all this. If what it becomes is anything in line with the marketing bumf around it. But the British army has a long and substantial experience in that sort of stuff anyway. They’ve been active in Ukraine and likely still are in Poland now.

I can’t imagine the level of intelligence and cyber fuckery that is going on in the West to support Ukraine. Russias monumental logistical cock ups can’t entirely be down to being dumb. Covert cyber ops from the best of the best helping to create cock ups? There are five recognised war fighting domains and Ukraine aren’t alone in all of them…

[Born Hunter 17,787]

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Agree. Apes with clubs. But the clubs contain nuclear warheads. 

It’s remarkable really. We are unique in the animal kingdom in our ability to throw with accuracy and power. It’s to do with the structure of our shoulder. Very dexterous. That evolutionary development led to us realising the benefits of stand-off weapons that projectiles offer. Did that lead to the weapons development that delivered ICBMs etc? There’s a few other factors which helped us to dominate but I do wonder if that one led us down the projectile weapons path or if we would’ve gone that way anyway eventually…

[jukel123 8,385]

Wonder if we allow psychos to reach the top because  secretly we think if our psycho is harder, more aggressive and crazier than your psycho  then we will survive at others' expense? Answers on a postage stamp.

[mackem 27,029]

 

[jukel123 8,385]

Sentimental bollocks. The dog will eat him as soon as he decays a bit more. Sorry, I'll get my coat.

I love dogs but they are scavengers at the end of the day. And we are part of the menu if necessary.

Edited April 4, 2022 by jukel123

[dogmandont 9,846]

7 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Sentimental bollocks. The dog will eat him as soon as he decays a bit more. Sorry, I'll get my coat.

I love dogs but they are scavengers at the end of the day. And we are part of the menu if necessary.

So the dogs just chilling by its owner waiting for him to soften up a bit before he gets his chow on. Lol. 

[jukel123 8,385]

1 minute ago, dogmandont said:

So the dogs just chilling by its owner waiting for him to soften up a bit before he gets his chow on. Lol. 

Yep,  mind you I suppose we would eat the dog if it were the other way round.

Edited April 4, 2022 by jukel123

[dogmandont 9,846]

2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Yep,  mind you I suppose we would eat the dog if it were the way round.

It doesn't usually go down well when ye tell the fur mommies that their Fanny lickers if push came to shove would fecking eat them. 

[jukel123 8,385]

Just now, dogmandont said:

It doesn't usually go down well when ye tell the fur mommies that their Fanny lickers if push came to shove would fecking eat them. 

I'll leave that revelation for you to tell. I've never been particularly courageous.

[mackem 27,029]