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Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Maybe where your from it was . 
 

Where im from was north of the wall, basically a wilding ??

I live about 50 yards south of the wall, so, yeah, I'm one of the subjugated people ! ?

Hope those eye ties don't decide to send the tanks in, I'd have to become a refugee in Morpeth !

Cheers.

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13 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Maybe where your from it was . 
 

Where im from was north of the wall, basically a wilding ??

same with me ancestors  up in them highlands them times ? 

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1 hour ago, mushroom said:

Yes and no.

There’s a YouTube channel called Bald and bankrupt. He goes to ex soviet countries and talks to people about their experiences etc. Most have good and bad to say.

Very good channel that Mr Bald is an entertaining character who speaks superb Russian.

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1 hour ago, Nicepix said:

You are spot on Charts. Wilf is doing his usual Devil's Advocate. If Hitchens wasn't a privileged westerner with the security that brings, and was living the life of an ordinary Russian with no job, no social security and nothing but a smallholding between him and starvation he might not champion the Russian way.  

I’m not playing devils advocate at all, I watched that video and could find not a lot wrong with what he is saying.

All this talk of “he supports Russia”…..utter nonsense, what if he sees it from reality ?

We don’t live in those simple times any more where there was a good guy and a bad guy, not when it comes to the people instigating this war namely Putin and his Western Counterparts.

There is a part in the video where he says our governments are overlooking professional, knowledgeable people in order to put to the fore those who are saying things the government like…..and that, as we witness every day, it totally true ! 
 

The ordinary Russian has got much wealthier under Putin over the years I believe, sure there will be places of abject poverty just because Russia is so vast but they ain’t lining up for bread from the party shop any more…..to suggest they are is delusional ! 
 

There’s abject poverty in London but we don’t give a shit about that do we ? 
 

This ain’t the fecking 80s !…..it’s not USSR v Ronald Reagan and Maggie any more with defecting ice skaters and peasants in Trabants ! 
 

But that is what it seems many of you think it is, and it isn’t !! 
 

Putin is fighting a war again the Ukraine and against people who by and large hate us, namely our own leaders who we are mental enough to keep re-electing ! 
 

Don’t  believe the hype !

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5 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Funny how it’s of zero relevance to the modern world . 
 

 

 

I like this one better brother ;) 

 

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There was a woman elected yesterday who has openly stated she wishes to undermine and hi-jack British culture and British life to suit her own people……not a murmur about it !

Nah, let’s all look over here at Putin !…….we genuinely are as thick as shit sometimes !

We talk about the death of British culture and of the Britain we knew, f**k, we don’t deserve to survive if this is all we are good for ! 
 

I have more in common with a Russian than I do with that “sleeper” who got elected yesterday !, more in common with a Russian than I do with people who want to do away with me and pretend to be my friend !…….not that they bother to even pretend that much anymore 

Russian bad, westerner good ?……let’s give our head a f***ing shake shall we and actually look at who our real enemies are.

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1 minute ago, WILF said:

There was a woman elected yesterday who has openly stated she wishes to undermine and hi-jack British culture and British life to suit her own people……not a murmur about it !

Nah, let’s all look over here at Putin !…….we genuinely are as thick as shit sometimes !

We talk about the death of British culture and of the Britain we knew, f**k, we don’t deserve to survive if this is all we are good for ! 
 

I have more in common with a Russian than I do with that “sleeper” who got elected yesterday !, more in common with a Russian than I do with people who want to do away with me and pretend to be my friend !…….not that they bother to even pretend that much anymore 

Russian bad, westerner good ?……let’s give our head a f***ing shake shall we and actually look at who our real enemies are.

you do talk sense wilf when it’s not about covid ? 

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Well said this isn’t a simple binary option here

the eu have pushing putins buttons for a long time woth talk of letting Ukraine in nato and the eu despite promises in the past this would never happen

Ukraine have been equally bad and shelling break away states etc 

I’d take putin over the liars we have have had for the past few decades

personally I don’t see either side in the wrong 

there’s currently huge animosity to Russians and it seems utterly unwarranted imho 

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47 minutes ago, tilimangro said:

Well said this isn’t a simple binary option here

the eu have pushing putins buttons for a long time woth talk of letting Ukraine in nato and the eu despite promises in the past this would never happen

Ukraine have been equally bad and shelling break away states etc 

I’d take putin over the liars we have have had for the past few decades

personally I don’t see either side in the wrong 

there’s currently huge animosity to Russians and it seems utterly unwarranted imho 

Exactly that, nicking some billionaires super yacht…..what’s that all about ?

Ill tell you, its because they know most people are small minded jealous f***ing arseholes who revel in seeing someone get screwed just because they spend their lives getting screwed by the same people ! 
It’s playing to the mob !

What they gonna do with a f***ing super yacht ?……give it back when it’s all over ?……sell it to line the coffers of the exchequer some more ?

Its legalised f***ing theft and people love it !……..they love it because it’s happening to them too ! 
 

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13 minutes ago, WILF said:

Exactly that, nicking some billionaires super yacht…..what’s that all about ?

Ill tell you, its because they know most people are small minded jealous f***ing arseholes who revel in seeing someone get screwed just because they spend their lives getting screwed by the same people ! 
 

What they gonna do with a f***ing super yacht ?……give it back when it’s all over ?……sell it to line the coffers of the exchequer some more ?

Its legalised f***ing theft and people love it !……..they love it because it’s happening to them too ! 
 

what right do they have to thieve peoples shit like that it’s embarrassing like you say people go along with it 

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