ACD x greyhound

[Neal 1,874]

3 hours ago, SheepChaser said:

Good size Kelpie that. The fashion now is for tiny things. The ones in Oz are much stronger built snd thicker set like that one in your photo. 

I've noticed a huge variety in the UK, similar to that found in Australia. I do know they sometimes find it hard to keep the size up though. My first two were a tad shy of 20" and the third was more like a Manchester terrier. However, Noggin and Ned are larger and take after the dogs they're line bred to. I think Noggin's grandsire was around 52 lbs. But it's what's inside that counts. I'd say my best two dogs workwise were the smallest and the largest which just goes to show that size isn't everything...according to my wife.

[scutty96 314]

On 03/02/2022 at 18:11, SheepChaser said:

My mate is. He’s asked me to find a dog to use, he’s got the Kelpie. Wants a pup out of her for himself for mooching and general hunting about, etc. 
 

Im thinking a real racey Lurcher with a little drop of bull to sort out any silliness. 

 

 

 

 

 

If it went over a racey lurcher with a bit of bull in I’d have one, I like my Kelpie that I got off jigsaw have gelled with her really well. 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

54 minutes ago, Neal said:

I've noticed a huge variety in the UK, similar to that found in Australia. I do know they sometimes find it hard to keep the size up though. My first two were a tad shy of 20" and the third was more like a Manchester terrier. However, Noggin and Ned are larger and take after the dogs they're line bred to. I think Noggin's grandsire was around 52 lbs. But it's what's inside that counts. I'd say my best two dogs workwise were the smallest and the largest which just goes to show that size isn't everything...according to my wife.

Sadly size does matter for work. It’s a lot harder on smaller dogs and they also often drop off quicker in body condition when working. Thinking stock work not hunting. 
 

I honestly think a lot of shite got sent over here, same as huntaways. Obviously good stock as well, but a lot of also rans. 

[nothernlite 18,089]

13 minutes ago, scutty96 said:

If it went over a racey lurcher with a bit of bull in I’d have one, I like my Kelpie that I got off jigsaw have gelled with her really well. 

Class

[Neal 1,874]

22 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Sadly size does matter for work. It’s a lot harder on smaller dogs and they also often drop off quicker in body condition when working. Thinking stock work not hunting. 
 

I honestly think a lot of shite got sent over here, same as huntaways. Obviously good stock as well, but a lot of also rans. 

Sorry SheepChaser...I was half way through doing something else while typing that and forgot what I'd intended to say and went off at a tangent...my wife says that talking to me is like one of those monologue gags by Ronnie Corbett in his armchair.

I meant in terms of the work that I do with mine. If I was breeding them for stockwork then, as you point out, I'd favour the larger type. Although I prefer my males to be on the big size, I quite like my bitches small as it helps with the environment they work in which is mainly small dense woodlands full of brambles etc. Maud has currently stalled at a tad over 17" and she's less than half the weight of Noggin. 

I know what you mean about some of the imports...that's why I always do a lot of research into the bloodlines before I buy one. When I bought Rusty back in 2000 I just thought a kelpie was a kelpie and bought one from the first litter that came up in the Farmers Guardian. Luckily for me he had great breeding (half Boanong and half Elfinvale) which is why I've aimed to  stick with similar breeding.

[OldPhil 5,812]

Same as Neal, I really like the Kelpie....

 

Edited February 6, 2022 by OldPhil

[Bosun11 537]

On 03/02/2022 at 16:41, OldPhil said:

Apologies young man

Thanks Phil, always loved that pic

[Bosun11 537]

We were ratting some big dairy farms in Cheshire a couple of weeks back and we're asked to check out another farm that afternoon.

The farmer had a 'sort of' big range black and tan Kelpie in the back of his truck. I've seen a few Kelpies but this was a bit different...

I really wanted to get a closer look at this dog, which was raising he'll if anyone got within 10 foot of the vehicle. It paced round like a wolf in a zoo and on approach slunk back, only to burst forward hitting the wire hard, all teeth and saliva. I decided to keep things as professional as I could and got on with the job and didn't ask about the dog.

We were invited back, and I really want to see more of this dog. Hopefully get some snaps.

[SheepChaser 8,089]

56 minutes ago, Neal said:

Sorry SheepChaser...I was half way through doing something else while typing that and forgot what I'd intended to say and went off at a tangent...my wife says that talking to me is like one of those monologue gags by Ronnie Corbett in his armchair.

I meant in terms of the work that I do with mine. If I was breeding them for stockwork then, as you point out, I'd favour the larger type. Although I prefer my males to be on the big size, I quite like my bitches small as it helps with the environment they work in which is mainly small dense woodlands full of brambles etc. Maud has currently stalled at a tad over 17" and she's less than half the weight of Noggin. 

I know what you mean about some of the imports...that's why I always do a lot of research into the bloodlines before I buy one. When I bought Rusty back in 2000 I just thought a kelpie was a kelpie and bought one from the first litter that came up in the Farmers Guardian. Luckily for me he had great breeding (half Boanong and half Elfinvale) which is why I've aimed to  stick with similar breeding.

Bang on mate, can’t argue with any of that. Really like the Elfinvale stuff. 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

2 minutes ago, Bosun11 said:

We were ratting some big dairy farms in Cheshire a couple of weeks back and we're asked to check out another farm that afternoon.

The farmer had a 'sort of' big range black and tan Kelpie in the back of his truck. I've seen a few Kelpies but this was a bit different...

I really wanted to get a closer look at this dog, which was raising he'll if anyone got within 10 foot of the vehicle. It paced round like a wolf in a zoo and on approach slunk back, only to burst forward hitting the wire hard, all teeth and saliva. I decided to keep things as professional as I could and got on with the job and didn't ask about the dog.

We were invited back, and I really want to see more of this dog. Hopefully get some snaps.

Kelpie / collie xs are very popular. But could just be a proper Kelpie  

[Bosun11 537]

1 minute ago, SheepChaser said:

Kelpie / collie xs are very popular. But could just be a proper Kelpie  

Wouldn't have said there was any collie in it but...

[Black neck 16,274]

54 minutes ago, Bosun11 said:

Wouldn't have said there was any collie in it but...

Your just gone have 2 bite the bullet and climb in the truck wi it in the name off research 

Lerrus know how u get on 

[tb25 4,627]

3 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Your just gone have 2 bite the bullet and climb in the truck wi it in the name off research 

Lerrus know how u get on 

Absolutely. 

Get down on all 4s bosum mate..show your teeth and lock on near the wind pipe..

Show no fear...

[OldPhil 5,812]

3 hours ago, Bosun11 said:

We were ratting some big dairy farms in Cheshire a couple of weeks back and we're asked to check out another farm that afternoon.

The farmer had a 'sort of' big range black and tan Kelpie in the back of his truck. I've seen a few Kelpies but this was a bit different...

I really wanted to get a closer look at this dog, which was raising he'll if anyone got within 10 foot of the vehicle. It paced round like a wolf in a zoo and on approach slunk back, only to burst forward hitting the wire hard, all teeth and saliva. I decided to keep things as professional as I could and got on with the job and didn't ask about the dog.

We were invited back, and I really want to see more of this dog. Hopefully get some snaps.

You'll be reet,...they rarely hang on,...it will only be a flesh wound...

 

Edited February 4, 2022 by OldPhil

[Neal 1,874]

22 hours ago, SheepChaser said:

Bang on mate, can’t argue with any of that. Really like the Elfinvale stuff. 

A few years ago I had a surreptitious meeting with a retired Australian sheep shearer (Akubra hat and everything)...at a bus stop in Waterlooville! He commented on what a useful looking dog Noggin was and his opening comment was, "He looks like he's got a fair bit of Elfinvale in him mate." After we'd chatted about kelpies in general for several minutes, he looked at Scout and added, "She looks like a bit of a mongrel though." That told me. The funny thing is, although she was a pure kelpie I never really thought of her as one; I mentally thought of her as a little terrier x whippet as that's what she always reminded me of.

Maud's more like the love child of a collie x whippet and a fox.