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2 hours ago, Neal said:

Dave Sleights first three litters of "kelpie" crosses all had equal amounts of collie and kelpie. The first was from his collie/kelpie bitch (I think called Ruby) mated to a whippet which produced Gem etc. Then he mated (I think) Ruby's brother to his whippet/greyhound which produced Purdey. The third litter (from which I bought my last lurcher Moss) was sired by the same dog to his racing greyhound bitch Tell Nobody. The collie used was (from what I've heard from several different sources) of a particularly good type from Barry Sharpe in Somerset (I think). Obviously I'm, going back several years with these "facts" so some of them could be a tad out. 

I think it says he mated a pure kelpie to a.whippit x greyhound bitch I watched a video on YouTube now I could be wrong that's were purdey came from 

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? Clear as mud Neal? I can only talk from a personal (and practical) point of view, and my rabbiting ACD based lurchers, were created from a union of Greyhound x Heeler put to a Hard Blood ,non-p

You are not far wrong there Aussie?  

If it went over a racey lurcher with a bit of bull in I’d have one, I like my Kelpie that I got off jigsaw have gelled with her really well. 

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57 minutes ago, Ferretman65 said:

I think it says he mated a pure kelpie to a.whippit x greyhound bitch I watched a video on YouTube now I could be wrong that's were purdey came from 

Purdey was definitely sired by a half kelpie half collie. I think it's a bit like how people referred to dogs from Richard Jones breeding back in the 80s etc as "beardie crosses" as that was the trendy part of the breeding so they conveniently neglected to mentioned the Border collie blood. In addition, a lot of those dogs (including my lurcher) were merle...and you don't get merle kelpies.?

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Just now, W. Katchum said:

You breeding a litter ? What dog you got In mind? Just being nosey ?

My mate is. He’s asked me to find a dog to use, he’s got the Kelpie. Wants a pup out of her for himself for mooching and general hunting about, etc. 
 

Im thinking a real racey Lurcher with a little drop of bull to sort out any silliness. 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 02/02/2022 at 15:28, bird said:

from what ive read , and talked to few people over the years , is  that the kelpie and the collie were the same breed that went out ot Oz from Scotland , ok they may have  put bit of acd in the mix, then out crossed back to other border collies, but the kelpie  and collie were same breed at 1st.  ive had border colliex greys that were ok , but not what call tough dogs more so if they had step up a gear, but i did have a kelpie x border collie x grey bitch in the 80s, now ok on paper only 1/4 kelpie , but feck me  she was nothing like my border collie xs , alot more guts in her , dont know about a fox , she take on a bloody  lion   lol, she was light fawn 23 in 50 odd lb   very strong   looked like she got pit in her, but no she genuine   breeding from Dave sleight . her temp was over the top with people and strange dogs, had to be  very careful  with her. so if i wanted a tough type temp , and not the over sensitive  temp you get in alot of border collies , i deff go for a good bred kelpie  to get a good lurcher . just out of interest  what the main difference  with a border collie and a welsh collie , i have tried to pm you, dont know if you got make room for another pm .?  

More upright in working style, loose eyed, and often loud ? 

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19 hours ago, C.green said:

Anyone on here keep a straight cattle dog ? 

Not any more Brother,...and I'm pleased to tell ya,.. that most of the lads who took the plunge and tried one, back in the day,.. are now mercifully, out of therapy,  and are finally weaned,.. off the Valium??

 

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