WILF 46,274 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, mackem said: Modern day Spartans they ain't, prima Donna's who kick a football and earn silly money for doing so, idolised by grown men, looked upon as heroes by some, puffed up with self importance, its all a bit silly but that's modern day society I don’t think that’s the case at all mate, I’ll admire anyone who’s good at something…..be that a brick layer, special Olympics athlete or able bodied athlete. It takes some amount of graft and determination to get to the top of your game in sport, I admire that. Most of the top sportsmen are horrible b*****ds, Lance Armstrong and Micheal Jordan to name but two, however you have to admire what they did and what it took to do it. Id say your “Spartans” assessment is wrong, in fact they couldn’t be more like Spartans…..remorseless, horrible fuckers who want to win no matter what. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 25,430 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, WILF said: Id say your “Spartans” assessment is wrong, in fact they couldn’t be more like Spartans…..remorseless, horrible fuckers who want to win no matter what. We don't have Spartans nor gladiators anymore, we have footballers in an arena, grown men pay their dues and pack coliseums (stadiums) to watch and cheer on their teams, players, tribes, but it's over rated, and because of the hero worship the players get more latitude than Joe public for their "indescretions". 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 25,430 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, dogmandont said: Lad on this very forum saying he hopes he survives this because he's a talented footballer says a lot about how some feel about these jumped up wankers. Football teams are modern day tribal warriors, look at the emotions in a stadium, your average bloke gets a vicarious thrill when "his" team wins, he is pumped up, his team won the day, society needs its entertainment. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, mackem said: Football teams are modern day tribal warriors, look at the emotions in a stadium, your average bloke gets a vicarious thrill when "his" team wins, he is pumped up, his team won the day, society needs its entertainment. I couldn't listen to the mates In bars nearly fighting over some football,it's sad if you ask me 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,057 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 It’s all the lads at work talk about is football we this , we that , we are playing you sat? Sounds like they own the fuking club Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Two boys I know actually fought over a man u an Liverpool match ffs an there from derry lol complete stupidity 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 44,637 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, mackem said: Football teams are modern day tribal warriors, look at the emotions in a stadium, your average bloke gets a vicarious thrill when "his" team wins, he is pumped up, his team won the day, society needs its entertainment. 4 minutes ago, Francie said: I couldn't listen to the mates In bars nearly fighting over some football,it's sad if you ask me Agreed...never got the fascination with the 'IDOLISING ' of other men.... bent as f**k in my book 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 25,430 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Qbgrey said: It’s all the lads at work talk about is football we this , we that , we are playing you sat? Sounds like they own the fuking club It's an armchair sport, they are sat watching it on telly paying the players to do the running for them, where does the "we" come into it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bearfoot 1,477 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Is this him it's hard to see without my glasses on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 22,647 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) O.K., the girl MAY be a gullible, foolish, immature 18 year old , but NOTHING excuses the quite obvious injuries she suffered ! The fact the the bloke is a famous(?) footballer with more money than sense should have no bearing on the fact he's been arrested for rape and assault, and IF he's found guilty, I hope his career and future are destroyed ! Harsh ? Not in my mind, as a parent and grandparent. Cheers. Edited January 31, 2022 by chartpolski 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,266 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 I can only judge on what I've seen and from what I've seen upto now it doesn't look good for him and rightly so . Remember these elite athletes or whatever have been through a ton of PR training so he really has absolutely no excuses, infact it kind of makes it worse imo. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ferretman65 2,159 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 41 minutes ago, Francie said: Two boys I know actually fought over a man u an Liverpool match ffs an there from derry lol complete stupidity You mean London derry llf lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,274 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Agreed...never got the fascination with the 'IDOLISING ' of other men.... bent as f**k in my book I dont know if you’d call it idolising, but appreciating something wonderful is perfectly understandable to me….. Take Zidane, you just take one look at him and you know you wouldn’t want to spend an hour in his company…..he’s got “horrible b*****d” written all over him but give him a football and put him in a game and he will give you moments of beauty and genius that will live in your memory a lifetime. Like all things, depends what you like I suppose…..you can probably appreciate a Dave Lane or Terry Hearn, not because you think they are nice but because of what they do….you understand it so you appreciate it. Edited January 31, 2022 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,012 Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, WILF said: I dont know if you’d call it idolising, but appreciating something wonderful is perfectly understandable to me….. Take Zidane, you just take one look at him and you know you wouldn’t want to spend an hour in his company…..he’s got “horrible b*****d” written all over him but give him a football and put him in a game and he will give you moments of beauty and genius that will live in your memory a lifetime. Like all things, depends what you like I suppose…..you can probably appreciate a Dave Lane or Terry Hearn, not because you think they are nice but because of what they do….you understand it so you appreciate it. Old terrys a god round here lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 25,430 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, WILF said: Like all things, depends what you like I suppose…..you can probably appreciate a Dave Lane or Terry Hearn, not because you think they are nice but because of what they do….you understand it so you appreciate it. It's like the plant or strain chat in the "Weed" thread, you didn't "get" it, football is just the same, hugging and kissing a bloke because he puts a ball between two posts, hugging your mates in the stands because the chap in "your" team placed the ball accurately, same sort of thing, some will never "get" it if they aren't into it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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