WILF 47,215 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: Man where to start. I guess without me sitting here tuple for three hours it would probably be just how insidiousness can sleep into the government or a people under the guise of a Revolution. Like he spends hours talking in great detail how the Soviet union basically brain washed people into thinking all of this was ok. To the point people where legit selling out their husbands,wives,sons daughters hell the nuns and bishops to the secret police for something as simple as a conversation about bread. Wait really struck me though and still is , I'm about 12hr in total , is how ...easy it's was for again lack of better words , for the "organs" as their called, to find enemies or " wreckers" everywhere with everything and how they would twist and turn everything to make it "better for the states interest". A good example of this was a man was brought in for having a old Finnish hunting rifle in his basement. The judge wrote it off as a " hidden stock pile of weapons with probable use in terroristic actions". Or another man was brought in after his neighbor of hear him say something along the lines of " the collective farms need some work they will get there but right now they are not very good" this was turned into an act of defamation of the peoples farm and a act of verbal terrorism. Now sit back and think, look at the news or modern SJW culture. How much further away is that from some liberal reporter calling a man a violent homophobe after. He had a little scrap at the bar with a guy who just so happens to , play for the other team ? Heck it's not even the liberals it's the radical conservatives too but I think you get the jist of my point with that. And the length they went to to get confessions. There is at least TWO HOURS of nothing but them talking about interrogation techniques. Was to completely and totally break a person over hours ,days, weeks ,months to the point they will admit to anything and then they call it proper justice. And no one bats an eye. Because of course if they where told on they where against the state and there for your enemy ! And that thought process was placed in the people of Russia head though propaganda. To the point their own RUSSIAN POWs where sent to prison and all these horrible interrogating practices and no one thought this was ...not a good thing. The power of a government of an unquestioning fractured population Another part that really really kinda made me say " hay ......we arnt far from that " is how the blue caps of the "organs" very quickly realized they could use their positions to get what ever they wanted. The people who where out hunting for these "wreckers" these enemies of the state with all this power to arrest , search and detain who ever they felt like , well. That beautiful woman who they had their eyes one.....would be a shame if her husband was found to be ... Spreading subversive thoughts though casual conversation.....or that well to do businessman with the house full of expensive what nots.... What if it was discovered ,though of course a completely routine search if the house , a note , discussing how much better it would be Russia traded with the Americans more . Ahhh sentiments towards the enemy, he gets off to prison and some of his expensive what nots..... Go , unaccounted And it goes on and on with stuff like this that at least for me makes me go " Why in the F@#K do people think communism or any all powerful government body is a good thing!?" That along with the idea that there will always be wolves in higher places of leadership and a bunch of sheep no matter how meek and well behaved will only be devoured. As I always say mate, there is nothing new in this world and we are quick to forget the lessons of history. You can see yourself from the parallels you draw that this is the case. Everyone should read stuff like that imho Edited January 21, 2022 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,213 Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 Stone me theres some " well read " people about.....cant say as ive ever had the time or inclination to wrap my little nut around all this type of stuff im quite envious of folk that read and read and read.....and it all go's in.....wish i had that level of concentration....one day hopefully.....but looks like some interesting shit this anyway. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 6,838 Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Wilfs biography is far harder reading, true hardships ,and then some good times when he moved to Ireland, a spielrberg block buster in the making!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,802 Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 I get the feeling you've got a downer on Wilf mate? Any particular reason? Cheers, D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,568 Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, dytkos said: I get the feeling you've got a downer on Wilf mate? Any particular reason? Cheers, D. Hard to fathom isn't it ...it's not as though poor Wilf has got strong opinions or views about anything . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,265 Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Bleakest book I ever read was 1984. Terrifying. Will give this book a go, but my lips are gonna be awful tired and my forefinger red raw if I finish it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PMul 145 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 My advice would be to listen to it on YouTube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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