BGD 6,436 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Fair enough....but if you add the votes of the Independent who put the leaflets out in the first place to the f**k off's its pretty much even........either way its a big statement in a constituency that only 3 years ago had a 65k turnout with 250 spoiled votes. Three years ago was a general election where all the main parties were standing though, you really can't compare the two there's always loads of spoilt ballots in these by-elections when the other main parties agree not to stand candidates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,046 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, BGD said: Three years ago was a general election where all the main parties were standing though, you really can't compare the two there's always loads of spoilt ballots in these by-elections when the other main parties agree not to stand candidates. ....they put a plan in place and it worked,it really is that simple.....i only recently learned that spoiled votes have to be witnessed and recorded id love to have a look through some of them findings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 1,504 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 I think its a unwritten law within politics that the bigger parties wont stand in a local election mid term if the current candidate had died, possibly why Labour and Libs did not field candidates! See Jayda Fransen stood for Independent wasn't she deputy leader of Britain First? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,706 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 20 hours ago, sandymere said: How we are seen abroad How did we fall so far. Where’s that’s article from out of interest Sandy? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,466 Posted February 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 Dare I say, all this partygate business has actually worked out well for England, no doubt its the reason all the restrictions have been lifted, I mean they don't have a leg to stand on now regarding restrictions, dred to think where we'd be under labour at this point in time. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,186 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 50 minutes ago, kanny said: Dare I say, all this partygate business has actually worked out well for England, no doubt its the reason all the restrictions have been lifted, I mean they don't have a leg to stand on now regarding restrictions, dred to think where we'd be under labour at this point in time. Jimmy saville getting his nighthood back 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,466 Posted February 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Greyman said: Jimmy saville getting his nighthood back Had to laugh as it turned out that the mob that put it on Starmer the other day was Pierce Corbyn and his crew 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 5,805 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, kanny said: Had to laugh as it turned out that the mob that put it on Starmer the other day was Pierce Corbyn and his crew They were there to protest about vaccine and a load of other stuff, like having a government...lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 hours ago, gnasher16 said: ....they put a plan in place and it worked,it really is that simple.....i only recently learned that spoiled votes have to be witnessed and recorded id love to have a look through some of them findings How can you know the plan worked when you can't compare like for like? As I said look into it and you'll see there's always loads of spoilt ballots in these special by-elections, it really is that simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,642 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 hours ago, gnasher16 said: ....they put a plan in place and it worked,it really is that simple.....i only recently learned that spoiled votes have to be witnessed and recorded id love to have a look through some of them findings 21 minutes ago, BGD said: How can you know the plan worked when you can't compare like for like? As I said look into it and you'll see there's always loads of spoilt ballots in these special by-elections, it really is that simple. Whatever the whys and what have you’s lads and not looking to be argumentative at all but imho all that counts for nothing because the end result is the same……there was a decent opportunity to elect someone different and overwhelmingly people decided more of the same was what was required ! It breaks me really Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 5,805 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 6 hours ago, kanny said: Dare I say, all this partygate business has actually worked out well for England, no doubt its the reason all the restrictions have been lifted, I mean they don't have a leg to stand on now regarding restrictions, dred to think where we'd be under labour at this point in time. Party gate is doing my swede in, I'm commuting atm, 40 mins each way, radio four. 30% of the time they're impartial , everything is brought back to party gate from Ukraine to gas prices. I honestly want to know what Cummings main objective is, major blatantly wants to revert brexit , have the country became alcoholic during covid , I'm not defending the toffs at number ten but I feel all this is achieving is weakening government, weakening Britain, placating some little scroat who's had a taste of power and feels disgruntled, heartening the pro EU reversal brigade , embarrassing the UK internationally, jeopardising future trade deals , and generally being unhelpful to the UK . I agree it was stupidity and foolish but he didn't take us to war illegally or increase migration , anyway political rant over.....if not Boris then whom.... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 59 minutes ago, WILF said: Whatever the whys and what have you’s lads and not looking to be argumentative at all but imho all that counts for nothing because the end result is the same……there was a decent opportunity to elect someone different and overwhelmingly people decided more of the same was what was required ! It breaks me really That's it really isn't it. Was the perfect opportunity to really give the establishment a bloody nose, it's a shame the independent parties couldn't have come to some sort of agreement to only put up one candidate now that would have made things interesting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,046 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, BGD said: How can you know the plan worked when you can't compare like for like? As I said look into it and you'll see there's always loads of spoilt ballots in these special by-elections, it really is that simple. So you're saying that a total amount of spoiled votes being roughly the same as the rest of the parties combined is normal practise ?.........not from what ive been told its not but then its not my game i dont know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,046 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, WILF said: Whatever the whys and what have you’s lads and not looking to be argumentative at all but imho all that counts for nothing because the end result is the same……there was a decent opportunity to elect someone different and overwhelmingly people decided more of the same was what was required ! It breaks me really Obviously nothings going to change overnight but from what im told this isnt something thats happened before....thats a start. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,642 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Obviously nothings going to change overnight but from what im told this isnt something thats happened before....thats a start. Don’t get me wrong mate, I’m all for 2% of something is better than a 100% of f**k all……I just don’t think enough people give a shit if you get my drift however much we think they do or should Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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